OnionCity

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by mirimir, Feb 12, 2015.

  1. RollingThunder

    RollingThunder Registered Member

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    And therein lays the danger. Someone is seeing the hidden service that you browse be it your isp or your vpn provider. You might make an ssl arguement, but then the NSA has attacked the underlying infrastructure of ssl.
     
  2. mirimir

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    Yes, that's the danger.

    The primary goal of OnionCity, and of Tor2web more generally, is making Tor hidden services available to people who don't use Tor. As I said, it's hidden services (e.g., whistle-blowers, activist bloggers, etc) that are being protected, not users. Recall that it was Virgil Griffith (who is behind OnionCity) and Aaron Swartz who created Tor2web. I suspect that their primary goal was providing broader access to censored information.
     
  3. 142395

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    Thanks for reply, I know what mirimir said in #25, but then if I don't care giving my IP (real or VPN's) to that trusted site and to Tor2Web proxy, and don't care my ISP, and what I do on the site is only reading or lurking, is it safe? I asked because, I might miss sth other than that. Maybe NSA is monitoring Tor2Web, but I don't think visiting those sites can be reason to be flagged...might be wrong tho. But I'll suspend to use Tor2Web or Onion City until I'm convinced, as actually there's not much need to visit those sites.
     
  4. mirimir

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    It's fine to use OnionCity and other Tor2web portals to visit hidden service sites, but only if you don't care that your ISP etc know which hidden service sites you visited.
     
  5. 142395

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    Thanks!:)
    I originally thought it's not problem for me, but reading through all those posts, I'll avoid or at least postpone use Tor2Web as prying eye may monitor ALL onion sites w/out discrimination ― just in case.
     
  6. This is bad for the dark web and .onion sites in general.

    More people are going to get scammed, robbed, hacked because of this .onion proxy.

    Look at the HiddenWiki FFS. That page is just filth. 95% scammers & 5% CP.

    And guess what The HiddenWikki would be the most visited page in .onion land.

    Why so many people still trust that scum bag page is beyond belief!
     
  7. mirimir

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    The big issue here is that users' ISPs would see all of the links in THW :(
     
  8. RollingThunder

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    I wanted to redress this a long time ago and just didnt have the time. I am becoming active again on Wilders. :) Aaron Swartz is who I wanted to talk about. Most will not attempt to argue that Aaron was incredible. His commitment to in formation technology was beyond reproach. What happened to the man imo is in itself criminal. Having followed Aaron's work for years it is close to a certainty that he simply wanted greater access to hidden services in general. And there is the problem. You couldn't pay me to write something like Tor2Web or OnionCity. Tor is a vital resource and opening up hidden services to the web without the benefit of anonymity is in my opinion irresponsible and dangerous to the public as a whole.

    Sorry it took so long to respond to this. I have a folder at the top of my browser for threads that I have wanted to respond to and lacked the time. Hopefully I can catch up a little bit now that time has become more available.

     
  9. RollingThunder

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    Remove for the moment sites like OnionCity and Tor2Web. Assume for the purpose of this conversation that people accessing the hidden wiki are using the Tor Browser Bundle. I use the various hidden wiki's all the time to view different content. They are a resource for information. Am I that different from the average Tor user? Don't others use Tor purely for intellectual purposes? Sigh ...

     
  10. mirimir

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    We agree, sir :)
     
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