Windows 10 Privacy

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Fox Mulder, Jul 10, 2015.

  1. Kerodo

    Kerodo Registered Member

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    Do your research and homework, I can't do it for you....
     
  2. Rasheed187

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    From what I've read so far I have to say I'm a bit shocked if you see how much "phoning home" is going on, what the hell is the matter with M$? Did they really think that people wouldn't be annoyed with this? They are once again shooting themselves in the foot.
     
  3. act8192

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    Internet is congested as it is. Add to it zillion users, each connecting to 20 sites and sending data every 15 minutes and we'll have a problem.

    Rasheed, people won't be annoyed because they don't know, and many (that I know), even on pre-Win10, imagine that constantly being connected to M$, facebook, googlemail, is necesary for the computer to function at all. I'm not making it up.
     
  4. Stefan Froberg

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    I don't sudo either. My linux distro just throws me dialog to ask password for any critical system operation, like updating complete system. Sure it's more typing than simply clicking "Yes, Yes, Yes" mindlessly to windows UAC ;)

    As for games, yeah, windows still has dominance in that area but linux has gotten some nice support lately (Steam)

    And of course, there are other open source OSes out there than just linux....
    Would looooove to see the day when they finally complete ReactOS !
     
  5. Kerodo

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    Yeah... I have just decided that I'm not going to use 10.. I asked myself what does it have to offer that I don't already have in 7 or 8.1 or Linux for that matter. And the answer was "nothing"... So I'll revert back to 7 or 8.1, I have both, or perhaps even Linux if I get fed up enough. MS should surely have been able to predict the reaction to all this privacy stuff... it's amazing.,.,.
     
  6. imdb

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    didn't ask that of you. just wanted to see what they were "from your perspective".
     
  7. Joxx

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    Easy to have Linux on a separate disk and use Windows just for gaming. That would cost just the price of a cheap SSD.
    The problem with Linux is not lack of games... I'm not going into the reasons for not having a distro as main OS, plenty of other threads, but I tell you this Win 10 privacy nightmare makes things ripe for someone with money and vision to pull the rug under Microsoft's feet.
     
  8. Infected

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    This i agree with. I have nothing against linux, i run it time to time.
     
  9. Kerodo

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    I've been all over the map this past 2 weeks... I wanted to like and run 10, but in the end, I decided against it because:

    1) Privacy Issues and many unanswered questions in this regard.
    2) Forced Win Updates, which I think will be a big problem in time
    3) Bugs/Problems/Issues which haven't been cleaned up yet, and some of which I saw months ago in the Insider Previews

    The other side of the coin is to trust MS (I don't really distrust them for any reason), and to go with 10 regardless of all the apparent liabilities. In some ways, MS isn't doing anything new that Google and others haven't done already, they're just pushing the envelope even further to grab our desktops and laptops.

    Also, I have no idea, nor does anyone else, what 10 will "evolve" into.. It might be ok, but based on what I can see now, I have no need for it. The entire OS now is interspersed with the Metro apps, everywhere, to the extent that you'll never get rid of them, and I have zero need for ANY of them.

    Overall, I choose to pass on 10 after using it for several months. But I don't pretend to tell anyone what's best or worst for them... it's a personal choice.

    So.... how does 10 look from YOUR perspective? ;)
     
  10. Boblvf

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    Hi,




    Go to Windows firewall, in outbound rules create two news rules for explorer.exe :


    block traffic outbound to internet TCP port 80 ( port 443 may be, but certificates problems possible ).


    block traffic outbound to internet UDP.
     
  11. PallMall

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    My perspective is so similar to yours that it seems you've taken the words out of my keyboard. The three points you state are mine, exactly.
    What is sure for now is that I will not install Win10 as a priority;
    What is uncertain is how I will deal with the 1-year limit for the "free" Windows 10 upgrade;
    What is likely now is that I will keep Windows 7 for its lifetime (January 2015) but will have before that bought a new computer (mine is 2 years old). At this point I'd like to know how sellers will deal with Windows 10 business plan. When buying a new computer equipped with Win10 how will this a) deal with users who have the Win10 upgrade license? - b) deal with users who have not the Win10 license? I just don't know.
     
  12. StillBorn

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    Just wait and see what's next. MS has set a new standard for other software apps (the proverbial tip of the iceberg) to follow. The time is near to say goodbye to the slightest shred of privacy we've ever known and felt the right to expect.
     
  13. Wroll

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    There are 1395 games for Linux on Steam right now. Most AAA are missing, but you can game very nice on Linux if you're not obsessed with AAA.
     
  14. imdb

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    thanks. i didn't have the time to test it thoroughly yet. gotta give it some more time.
     
  15. Joxx

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    No you can't.
    It's not only AAA games (although that would be sufficient to cripple Linux as a gaming platform). You don't have to be a hardcore gamer to be continuously frustrated by new releases that you want to play but can not because they won't run on your platform.
     
  16. PallMall

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    Coming-out performances are emerging a bit everywhere, coming-out u
    We feel the right to expect privacy because we know -- and will have known should it vanish -- what privacy is, what it means, its implications on our lives, on our attitudes and behaviors. But I wonder how the new generations whom will have been brought up in an environment devoid of privacy will manage their lives, their relationships. This will be relevant to know once and for all if privacy is a cultural concept or if it deeply anchored in the very soul of every human being. The meaning of privacy has changed throughout the ages, see the Middle Ages, see the 18th century, privacy concerns were different from what they are now, yet they existed. Culture has modified the definition of privacy but will it ever erase its very root? No idea.
     
  17. imdb

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    there was this one guy fit the description who had the chance but let it go. his name was steve.
     
  18. imdb

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    why don't you take a snapshot of it, so you can recover it when the 1-year time limit is over?
     
  19. PallMall

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    That is indeed not a bad idea. But I think that I'll have made up my mind within now some eleven months or so. At least Microsoft didn't push upgrade invitation to the point of "now or never" ... a year is quite a long expiry in the computer time. Maybe I'll upgrade July 28th 2016, who knows? But let's not forget the 30-day rollback delay either, which would fix a decision to June 28th, 2016. Frankly, as I see how Win10 is deploying, I'm not really excited.
     
  20. imdb

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    nah, you can forget about it. 30 day roll back is not what you think it is. it doesn't mean you lose your license for the previous os. it just means you can roll back to the version of windows that was on your system before the upgrade within 1 month. after that, you can only perform a clean install so long as you have a valid license for it.
    because, after 1 month period, windows deletes old windows files kept in a folder named "windows.old".
     
  21. PallMall

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    That's what I had in mind. That 30-day roll back is included in the 1-year "free" upgrade limit as I've understood it. Unless it be not, which would mean that I could roll back after July 29th 2016 a Win10 installed after June 29th (and before July 29th 2016 of course) at the sole condition that this roll back be performed within 30 days after upgrade... you see what I mean?!
    This would be an odd scenario, to wait to the last moment to upgrade (free) but those things happen!
     
  22. imdb

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    that's not a problem either, if you use snapshots.
     
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  23. Kerodo

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    I'm hoping you're right on this. Yesterday, I restored an image of 7 that I had that was 2 months old. I didn't roll back to 7 via 10 because I nuked the image that I had of that setup (with windows.old etc), and did a clean install later. Anyway, 7 wouldn't update after the restore. I don't know if this was just a fluke thing, or if MS actually blocked my machine ID from updating since I didn't do a proper roll back. I don't think they'd do that, but I'll have to try a restore again and see. Meanwhile I'm on Linux till I get everything sorted out...
     
  24. Kerodo

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    It's interesting because I can actually get to the point where I can say I don't care about all this privacy stuff, since I'm not doing anything outright criminal, and I don't feel that I have anything to hide, or that there's anything on my pc or that I'm doing that would be of any interest to anyone. But.... even so, when I use 10, I still get an instinctive feeling that it just isn't right, and that it's just doing way too much behind my back. I can't seem to shake that feeling..
     
  25. Kerodo

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    Yeah, I'm sure there is something altogether alien coming our way, lol... I believe you... :)
     
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