Trend 2015 arrives tonight. Take a look.

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Mayahana, Sep 16, 2014.

  1. Mayahana

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    I can't duplicate anything to the severity you are seeing Marcio.. I'd open a ticket if I were you, and/or check for conflicts relating to other products, etc. All I can duplicate is Trend moving into paranoid mode when I toss some malware at it, but nothing unusual. This is a documented feature of the product that's been discussed elsewhere. But 42% CPU I would think is extreme, and I certainly wouldn't tolerate that either!
     
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    Trend Micro IS 2015 didn't do very well against a test set of worms that have been in the wild for over a month. It allowed a number of them to run, spawn, autostart, and connect to their respective Algerian C&C's.
     
  3. marciocruz

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    It's the 2 ticket i open about this subject (without counting the tickets during the beta stage) all the time e get a 2n line engineer on my machine, replicate the issue, and then the ticket goes for analysis...without answer so far... i have a very good experience with trend support in the past..but in this particular case, i feel they are not sure about what to do to fix this...so let's wait for a response, or maybe just maybe this "bug" will get fixed when a new version is released...
     
  4. Mortal Raptor

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    Did they fix the bug where if you had the Trend Addons in Firefox installed it will crawl to death when opening multiple tabs? that's the reason I stopped using it
     
  5. Frank the Perv

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    LOL..


    Trend is REALLY improved. Since the 2015 release, the results have been nothing less than impressive. Of course all security software will have issues... that's the nature of the beast. It's limiting the issues and the speed in which the issues are addressed is what differentiates the better from the lesser products. When I have a little time, I look forward to trying it out again.

    -Frank

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  6. Macstorm

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    Nope, I keep dreaming.
     
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    Good Morning! While trying to re-install AppGuard...and with Trend set at Hypersensitive...it identified AppGuard as a False Positive...Not the Way to Stay Sicher...Lol! I'll contact the Trend Support people...to lay my Angst at Rest. Sincerely...Securon
     
  8. Frank the Perv

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    Sicheron,

    I'll be trying Trend soon. I'm kinda thinking I will like it... based on the test results and reporting here.

    I hope it joins Symantec & G-Data as my favored solutions.

    It's always about being Sicher.

    Always.


    -Frank
     
  9. Mayahana

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    Vitaly Gurevich posted a youtube test of Trend 2015. He became very frustrated with his inability to even download a threat due to the DNA detection in Trend. He eventually got 1 thing to download, but Trend blocked the connection to the loader server where the item tried to download an executable to run.
     
  10. zfactor

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    i had a similar experience the problem was many things i wanted to download that were 100% NOT virus' were being picked up as such. needless to say it ticked me off. that and the auto delete make it a no go for me.
     
  11. Mayahana

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    I don't think you understood what I was saying.. He was TRYING to infect a Trend Machine by downloading malware, and all of it was blocked. That's by design!
     
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    yes but i was NOT. it was blocking damn near everything i wanted to download. sure great to not get infected but a royal pain in the rear.
     
  13. Mayahana

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    Examples? I've never once heard anyone say this. Trend is known to have quite low false positives with the product, and almost no FP's with the URL-DNA. Let's see some links, this is a pretty strong statement, I would like some validation of it. We have Trend deployed on many thousands of systems and only run into this 'rarely' and it's usually found the website is corrupted or compromised with further investigation.
     
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    dont have anymore. this was about a month ago have not tested it since and have no desire to. i also have a client who also had fp's and asked me to remove it for them they said it was annoying them. it even blocked some pictures my mom sent me via email and they are def not infected. i downloaded them on another machine to check them out to be sure. trend blocked them every time i tried through yahoo mail.
     
  15. Mayahana

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    I suppose I predicted you had no examples or evidence. Ignoratio elenchi, also known as irrelevant conclusion. You make pretty extravagant claims here, and rarely provide any supporting evidence of them, that's why I wasn't surprised.
     
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    why would i keep examples? i tested it, it didnt work out for me. plain and simple. so im going to specifically keep files around that trend blocked just because? lol. you have your opinions i have mine plain and simple. but a month after testing something im not going to say oh wait i have a list right here.
     
  17. Charyb

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    In testing at av-comparatives, up until 6 months ago, Trend Micro didn't do any better than any other antivirus and was the king of false positives. Doing well in recent tests doesn't mean it now becomes the holy grail of antivirus products. It still has a long way to go with allowing legitimate software to install properly and needs some additional settings to make it more user friendly. Asking before moving a file to quarantine or deleting a file would be a start.

    A couple months ago I opened a ticket with tech support regarding the problems with installing Windows Firewall Control 4.
    Today, that problems still exists.

    1. The installation package is suspicious.
    2. Exclusions are still not recognized properly.
    3. In folder options, 'Do not show system files' is unchecked for whatever reason.
    4. The installation is not allowed to complete which leaves no entry in Programs and Features to uninstall it.
    5. A service is left behind which will not uninstall without deleting an entry in the registry and rebooting. This service that is left behind causes further attempts to install WFC4 to fail.

    There has been discussion regarding the time and cost to remove PUPs. Well, this is no different.

    Not to mention the system hangups for several seconds and the slow browsing while Social Nework Protection is enabled.

    It's worthless to me since I can't properly install the legitimate software that I want to use and have to go in and manually figure out
    how to remove things left behind after a botched install. No more babysitting for me.

    I recommend that people do not purchase this program without thoroughly testing it. It's not worth the headache.
     

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  18. Mayahana

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    Charyb this is a good report of your issues, with facts, and evidence. Just what I like to see. However I just installed WFC on a machine with Trend on it set to 'Hypersensitive' and cannot duplicate this here at least.. I wonder if there are different installers out there, and possibly installers loaded with PUA's?

    I haven't run into any of these issues personally. But like you - I always find 'something' with AV products that perturbs me.. Not a single one is perfect, and probably never will be. Name an AV you can install and never have a complaint, or small issue? I'm still waiting for one! Please don't say Norton 2015. As much as I like it, there are still issues with it. Also, Trend will never have an option to 'ask' to quarantine, it's not in their business model, and I have been told this by the senior producer at Trend. Personally it's not an item I would welcome, but I can understand why some want it, it's just not going to happen.

    While I feel 2015 is the best Trend ever, and possibly the best AV product. I think it needs another beta cycle to marinade for perfection. Beta will likely be starting up in June/July for the 2016 version, and usually last until September. 2015 was a major new version, so that beta lasted a bit longer - and the changes took everyone by surprise. Trend is on the short list of products I can recommend to almost anyone without worry. That list is very very small for me at this time.
     
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  19. Mayahana

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    One thing that worries me about Trend is the fact that Tom Kellerman calls the NSA 'the good guys' and that what they do is 'good'.. I find this.. Irksome!

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/cyber...disclosures-shouldnt-worry-consumers/2773495/
    "The people who work on PRISM are working to protect us," says Tom Kellermann, Trend Micro's vice president of cybersecurity. "They don't care what movie you're going to or whether someone is cheating on his wife."
     
  20. Frank the Perv

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    Your assertions do not seem credible.


    Charyb has a history of credibility and substantiates his position well.


    LOL... I agree with Tom Kellerman.


    I do think Trend has demonstrated that they are quickly ascending. I'm grateful that Trend is pushing the herd in performance. And I'm glad Mayahana is on this thread and has helped multiple people with their Trend installations. I dumped Trend years ago, but will be trying it again soon.
     
  21. zfactor

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    frank as i have said im not going to re-test it. i did and do not wish to do so again. honestly just dont care to bother. and as i said i do not keep files sitting around just because an av says they are a fp. i remove the av and be on my way. maybe you keep things like that but i dont have the time nor the hard drive space (and trust me i have a LOT of hard drive space but not to dedicate to fp's). so i can not provide specifics any longer. maybe it was my particular install but it ticked me off enough that im not going to bother trying it again. nor will i recc it to any of my clients. when 2016 comes out ill then try it again. till then no trend for me.
     
  22. Nightwalker

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    Trend Micro 2015 is a very much improved experience compared to old Titanium, it is very easy to use and reasonably powerful in file/web detection. I think it will get Top Rated award in AV-Comparatives this year.
    But Trend Micro really needs to iron some bugs from the product and maybe get away with browser addons, it can really drain some machines performance (in my PC I only saw the cpu bug after detection).


    Offtopic On


    I know that I am going a little off topic here, but zfactor is a long time Wilders user, he has a very long history of credibility here. I see no reason to him to "lie" and it makes sense to dont keep or remember the exact files.

    I really like your and Mayahana insights on this forum, I see your two as great folks, but both need to pratice a little humility (Mayahana even more).

    Offtopic off
     
  23. Frank the Perv

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    Ok, fair enough zfactor. Thank you for your input on this.



    Ok, thanks. I will take that for action.


    -ftp
     
  24. Macstorm

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    This.

    I expect good things and improvements for their 2016 version. The current one is too heavy for my liking.
     
  25. fax

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    Development of certain products such as this one is fast and therefore feedback on effectiveness and issues should also refer to the current version otherwise there is the risk of posting misleading information. The feedback may be perfectly legit and reputable but still simply outdated.

    Users at wilders knows very well that users feedback is very much relative, too many factors involved. Different set-up, settings, software, ISP, hardware, etc. Good for discussing less good to make informed judgements as everything and the contrary of everything is often reported for the same product. :thumb:
     
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