CleanMem experimentation

It's funny. We use Shane's 'Tweaking.com' utility on upwards of 1000 machines a month. It does a whole lot of things I would have to do manually. I agree with you on this.

Shane has worked with me in the MSP field, and I have consulted him numerous times on 'very odd' issues a dozen engineers can't solve. I respect him, and I was the one that invited him to this forum.

Hopefully he can be accorded an Orange Name.

 

Just because someone has one or more decent tools, doesn't mean all of his programs are just as good or worth it. I myself like Registry Backup and Windows Repair (All In One). They aren't bad and can be quite helpful sometimes. However, both of them, and all of his other programs are extremely generic compared to CleanMem. The latter deals with the memory manager, which is basically the most complex part of the kernel. The difference in complexity is night and day.
It is unlikely that a person whose bulk of programs are trivial and basic would also have this very sophisticated program that knows better than the OS itself. Now, if let's say Mark Russinovich wrote a program like that it would be a lot more believable, because he has a lot of programs for debugging, troubleshooting, monitoring, diagnosing, etc. He deals with low-level stuff and the inner workings of the OS all the time. He would be a lot more credible source of a "memory optimizer". Yet, he doesn't have one, and even says such programs are useless.

 

Keep quiet, until you read up on it. You are sounding worse by the day. He's not re-writing the OS's optimizer, he's merely triggering it more often so it is better functioning. Take 3 minutes out of your day and read.

Funny thing is, I have played games that crashed all of the time unless I was running CleanMem due to tremendous memory leaks (World of Tanks for example). CleanMem forces a system cleanup of 'junk' in memory(using MS's own calls), which kept the program from crashing. Priceless if you ask me, now I run it on every machine I have regardless of the AMOUNT of ram - it's a vacuum cleaner for junk programming.

 

A couple of weeks before,a client of mine brought to me a Win 7x32bit and 4GB Mem. laptop with a strange problem(Chrome and FF installed).
When you visit a ''heavy'' site with Chrome,the broswer froze for 3-4 sec. and after that you can browse wherever you want with no problem.
The same problem for FF too. Open, visit a heavy site like C-net,Yahoo mail, Firefox and the whole system froze for about twenty seconds.
I was pretty sure this problem had nothing to do with memory and the only solution i could find it was completely disable FF fonts in about config,but unfortunately the client didnt like it,although this solved the issue.
Then,i instaled cleanmem,just to test it,it even not crossed my mind that it could do something about it.
Magically the problem solved!

 

I totally agree with Mayahana (and Peter). Take a couple minutes and just read what Shane says about Cleanmem. He makes no promises and his claims are realistic. Just try it. At the very least, quit blasting something you haven't tried.

http://www.pcwintech.com/about-cleanmem

 

First of all, I have read what CleanMem does and I have tried it a few years ago. It didn't improve anything in any way.
Speaking of memory leaks and the memory manager, maybe you should educate yourselves first. A good starting point would be the Mysteries of Memory Management Revealed talk with Mark Russinovich: Part 1 and Part 2 (which MrBrian already posted earlier in the topic). Another good watch is Pushing the Limits of Windows. You know, actual technical information and explanation from the best source, not some vague mumbo-jumbo.

 

What were you expecting it to improve? Do you have diagnostic logs showing nothing was improved in any way?

I've said it multiple times, it actually allowed World of Tanks to be playable, and was the only product that allowed it to be playable while the developers of that game got off their lazy rears and patched it. A documented memory leak issue was fixed by this little tool. Also it's pretty obvious with 'cursory' testing that it does this for a variety of things. Remember it's just causing Windows to do what it already does - more regularly, so the end result is a cleaner running, more stable system. You seem to keep referring to documents that have nothing to do with this product. It's NOT a memory optimizer - that's why we assume you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Why am I supposed to show anything? The program claims it improves things so the burden of proof falls on it to proove it does it, not to people to prove that it doesn't.
But whatever, I see it's pointless. Just like it was in the last discussion. I wasted a lot of time and effort to try and explain things. I'm not going to make the same mistake again and waste my time with people who prefer to rely on hunches, guesses, sixth sense, etc. instead of facts and logic.

I'm done with this crap.

 

You should already have gone...

Bye bye...

 

Good riddance, sheesh. All that was proven was either lack of reading comprehension or ignorance (on at least "Some facts about CleanMem (PLEASE READ):"), and cowardly name-calling without proving anything but crap.