bought an ASUS AC-87U Router, do I still need an AV?

Thanks, all good to know. Wish I had known this when I was playing Quake over the net and getting smoked all the time

 

Hmm, the ASUS rep on this page ( http://pcdiy.asus.com/2014/06/rt-ac3200-ultimate-802-11ac-6x6-router-computex-2014/ ) is saying that the RT-87U is still the king of performance and max range whilst the AC320 is targeted towards userith lots of devices connected to the 5GHz network as it will divide the connected devices between its two 5GHz antennas and the AC3200 is more like an improved RT-AC68U but the RT-AC87U remains king......

I thought the AC3200 being newer and more expensive would be king, now I kinda regret my decision of buying it. still needs 10 days till its shipped to me here in Dubai

 

Also the 87U/R us 4X4 MIMO, the AC3200 is 3X3, so the 87 is superior over a wider array of performance metrics. Just cancel your AC3200 order?

 

Get this one.. LOL

http://torguard.net/store/Asus- RT-AC87U-DDWRT

 

it's on the way already can't do that. Plus, the AC3200 is like 25% more expensive than the AC87U, that's what made me thing it was better. bloody hell.

 

I see the AC87's for $198-$225 now, since the AC3200 came out the price dropped.

Since the AC68 can do AiProtection, I've been waiting for that to drop, and it hasn't. Now if they added AiProtection to AC66 - we're talking, but with an anemic single core CPU, I doubt it will happen.

 

According to the ASUS rep on that site I linked above, the focus of ASUS in regards to optimizing firmware is going to be for the AC87U as the first priority so I expect it to only get better once the firmware matures a bit just like the AC68U

 

Agreed. Right now heavy focus seems to be firmware. I had one of the first production run RT-AC87's, and the firmware was so buggy it was almost impossible to even login to it. It's come a long way! Right now my RT is in WAP mode, so I am pretty much leaving it alone as long as it works fine. $250 is cheaper than most high end enterprise WAP's so I don't feel that's a waste of it's power - I just wish they left AiProtection on in WAP mode.

 

Got an even lower ping connecting to the 2.4GHz band.

I've always been connected to the 5 GHz band thinking it was better but since the AC87U has a serious bug in the 5GHz band which drops connections randomly, I decided to try the 2.4 GHz band and it's much better.

4 ms vs 5 ms on the 5 Gh band

 

My pings seem to always average around 11ms but this is using cheap hardware. I also seem to get better signals out of my 2.4 GHz band as well, so it may not just be specific to ASUS routers but I have to do some more research on it.

 

please let me know your findings because it doesn't make sense to me, I thought 5GHz is superior.

 

Where are you seeing these great prices for the 87U? And by the way even the latest reviews on Newegg are less than inspiring with regard to both functionality and support. Seems like the firmware has a ways to go still.

 

This is similar to what Netgear is doing with their 2 top routers. The Nighthawk X6 AC3200 is more expensive but the X4 AC2350 is actually faster. The purpose of the X6 is larger families with lots of devices. The X6 is the traffic cop that automatically assigns devices their 2.4 and 5.0 bands If you have a high traffic household you might be better off with the 3200.

I've been ready to upgrade to one of these routers but haven't made a decision yet. After reading Mayahana's positive comments on the ASUS routers with Trend Micro I'm thinking that's the way to go.

 

5 GHz is superior in that the spectrum is less congested (less noise overall) and that the specifications allow for significantly increased throughput. The 5 GHz signal is stronger but doesn't travel as far as 2.4 GHz. That's a good thing in crowded neighborhoods. But within your house, depending on your setup it could make a difference.

 

Newegg had them for $60 off last week. But I see sales fairly often, or people selling them on Ebay.

I don't pay much mind to the reviews, it's a great device. I actually think a lot of the negative reviews are people that are angry about them coming out with it, or can't afford it. As a network engineer I can tell you it's a solid product at this point, and the firmware has matured enough to make it a stable, quality product. It's the best consumer grade router in the world, and Trend ensures it will remain so. If I didn't prefer a Layer7 on my gateway I would use this is a heartbeat on the gateway, no question about it.

 

@Mayahana .... The 87U was based on Quantenna chipset. It looks like ASUS went with Broadcom-chipset on the RT-AC3200? Do you honestly think that the range of RT-AC3200 will be that much greater than 87U?

 

I have a feeling that the AC3200 might perform better on my computer since it has a Broadcome AC WLAN card, let's see

 

The range on the 87R/U is already 5000-6000sq feet.

Asus makes a WAP that covers up to 10,000sqft. If I was worried about coverage I would use the WAP, and turn the radios off on the router and use it as a gateway w/Trend.

 

Since you didn't answer my question.... I assume that the range is about the same.
Well.... back to the game.... Go Patriots!!!

 

Doesn't appear range is significantly different between models.

 

AC3200 seem to have more antennas, other than that it looks the same...

 

I will wait for the next incarnation before I upgrade. AC3200 is basically the same hardware wise except for Quantenna changed to Broadcom, and whether or not that offers any improvement is up to question. I know the AC3200 lost MIMO 4x4, and only has MIMO 3x3, so in that area it's a downgrade! Having another antenna isn't important other than for marketing at this point, Netgear comes out with a 6 Antenna, so ASUS has to screw a couple more on.

http://www.quantenna.com/4x4-mimo.html

ASUS is quietly working on 802.11ad, so AC may be just another in the line of legacy items to support now that ad has been largely perfected by new antenna technology, and is soon to market. Although nothing you buy today will support 60Hz AD bandwidth, it's coming. That's what my next upgrade will be after this 87U which is remarkable right now for me,

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2825...mes-faster-than-todays-wireless-networks.html

 

I own the Asus ac rt-66u do you think it's with the upgrade to the Asus 87u?

 

66u is anemic, with a single core processor, and incapable of handling the Trend suite. So it appears they will not be adding that to the 66u.

An 87u is a massive upgrade to the 66u. (I also had the 66u)

 

Yeah I just bought the 87u. Like the fact it has the trend micro utm.