VoodooShield/Cyberlock

Here is the next beta version! I will catch up a little later! I am hoping that the service issue is fixed, if not, please let me know!

I still need to make VS prompt on first run to see if the user is running the default web apps, and if not, disable the Parent Process feature. Which, by the way, if you guys can find anything that will slip through the new Parent Process feature, please let me know. I do not think there is, but I need to make sure! This feature really turned out well, and drastically reduces VS blocking things that it should not. But then again, if we can not do it safely, then we cannot include it .

http://www.voodooshield.com/freeoffer/Install VoodooShield.2.20b beta.exe

 

Cool, thank you Baldrick... sorry this is so hard to isolate and fix. The problem is that I cannot reproduce it on any of my systems or VM's, but I think we are close. Hopefully 2.20b fixed it .

 

Cool, thank you. I will also google like the top 10 web browsers and email clients and add those as well.

 

I like it, thank you! Hopefully that is the only verbiage that needs help, but if not, please let me know . In the version I just released, I said "Please select the Web Apps that will Toggle VoodooShield ON and OFF in Smart Mode." But I like what you said as well, so I might combine them or something. I would like to use the word Toggle if possible. This is cracking me up! Either way, thank you for your help!

 

All I am saying is that we are focusing on things that we should not be focusing on when there are more important issues to consider.

I think you had a great point when you suggested that VS should not toggle with sandboxed apps. So I do appreciate your feedback, but to be called a liar because it is your opinion that VS does not work the way that you want it to with SB, that is just not cool. I am not lying about anything, it was not even my quote.

The general tone of this 200+ page thread has been overwhelmingly positive, although we have had some spirited discussions about UAC in the past . I would prefer to keep the overall tone of this thread positive, but several of your posts have not been exactly positive. And honestly, to be called a liar for a quote that was not even mine, and for you to bring up the EULA out of the blue, that pretty much shows me your intentions.

If you want to have a spirited discussion about something that is relevant to making VS better, than that is totally cool with me.

I really like your idea of not toggling VS with sandboxed apps... it was something that I totally overlooked. So if you have more observations or ideas that will improve the software, please let me know! Thank you!

 

Thanks Dan...will be clean installed shortly, and then the rest of the weekend to play/test the new offering...cool!

Regards, Baldrick

 

Hi Pete,

Please see the above post! BTW, I think we need to all realize that is one of the issues with text... sometimes things are taken the wrong way. Either way, I think it is everyone's best interest to keep this thread as positive as possible. If I mess up, like for example, if I do something like inadvertently borrow another developer's technology or ideas, or just do something silly that leaves the computer unprotected when VS is installed, BY ALL MEANS PLEASE LET ME KNOW!!! About the website quote... I have tons of other quotes that I can replace it with, and I might at some point, but for right now, I would prefer to focus on the software. Especially since there is not a known conflict between SB and VS. Did anyone stop to consider that maybe possibly at the time (or even now), that the person who wrote that quote might have been using some other software that had a serious conflict with SB, and was happy to see that something worked well with SB? This is VERY common with security software, you know that. That quote was from 3 years ago, and there is a chance that the person who wrote that quote does not even remember exactly what he meant at the time.

Either way, the quote is still factually accurate, although I admit that VS should not toggle to ON when a sandboxed web app is launched.

I have said this many, many, many times on here, so everyone please forgive me for saying it again. It is my opinion that we need to lock our computers and move away from an "allow by default" to a "deny by default" methodology. But if we lock a computer too tight, then very few people will use the lock. Excessive affirmative user prompts are just as dangerous as malware because users become accustomed to clicking Allow for everything, which ultimately leads to malware. So the whole goal of VS is to block ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that is not whitelisted when the computer is at risk, but automatically allow as much as possible, but ONLY when it is safe to do so. And I think we have pretty much accomplished that, especially with our automatic Publisher and Parent process features, although I am going to keep working until VS is truly "indistinguishable from magic" (quote from a recent review).

If you prefer the concept of blocking everything that is not whitelisted over VS's concept of blocking everything when the computer is at risk, and automatically allow everything only when it is safe to do so, then we simply disagree fundamentally, and I totally respect that. I can imagine there are a lot of users who want to manually allow everything and want total control of what is whitelisted, especially computer security people. Then again, I think you could always disable several of VS's features, and I think it would do that as well.

You suggested "But I simply state. VS doesn't work with a sandboxed process. Period." and "All my other security stuff does stop the malware when I run it sandboxed."

Exactly .

Why would you EVER want to block a sandboxed process? Thank you!

 

I am a "home user" sandbox'd 99%.

 

Pete, I guess my point is that just because other software does something, that does not mean that VS has to do it. It is like telling a dog that they should meow instead of bark.

As a matter of fact, I would suggest that it is a good thing that we are so different. If I wanted to create security software that was just like all of the others, well, I would not be in this business.

 

I don't find the need for a Sandbox but I use the thing between my ears but to each there own. LOL

TH

 

Did not at any time call you a liar. At best the text is misleading at worst the text is a lie. Not you are a liar.
<<Why would you EVER want to block a sandboxed process?>> To protect my personal information.
Sandboxie protects my machine. Sandboxie does not protect me.
As always respectfully submitted and I will not travel down this road again. Installing 2.20b

 

Actually, all we have to do is make it optional whether to block sandboxed processes or not. Then everyone is happy, right? Give me a little time to include that feature, I have other things that I am working on that deserve a little more attention.

BTW, I am assuming there are only 2 things that SB quote could have meant...

1. Some other security software had a major conflict with SB, but the user was happy that VS worked well with it. In that case, we will not be removing that quote from our website.

2. Some other security software did not block sandboxed processes either, which means I am not the only developer in the universe that believes that sandboxed processes should not be blocked. In that case, we will not be removing that quote from our website.

BTW Pete, you would be surprised to hear that as a user, it is my opinion that ERP is the best Anti-Executable so far on the market, although I think they are all great in their own way (the one's I have tried that is). However, I do not consider VS an Anti-Executable... I consider it an automatic toggling computer lock / desktop gadget. I actually did not even know that Faronics AE or Bit 9 was available, or even what an AE was when we started about the same time as ERP in early-mid 2011. Also, AG is great as well, but it is not an Anti-Executable either... it is its own unique animal. So would you ever suggest to them that they need to behave more like an AE? Just curious.

I am going to take the night off and go out to eat with this girl I have been seeing. Hopefully the new version of VS is working great, but please let me know either way!

 

Hi Dan, I have to wait to try the newest version to see how it goes.

I am in another snapshot that doesn't have VS installed, but I am having fun with another vendor's software which I have been posting about in the Wilders' forum.

 

Have a Great needed time!

Cheers,

TH

 

Installed 2.20b beta. Clean and crisp install. Clean and crisp Reset Whitelist. Navigating UI clean.
About shows 2.20a beta ~ Left margin show 2.20b beta.
Text overlay cleaned up on User Prompt to check Automatically run. User Prompt goes away to fast to check option.
Not needed by me...others may want to check option.

 

Cool, let me know, thank you!

 

Yeah, it was a great break .

 

Cool, thank you. Yeah, I know what you mean, it is a ridiculously fast scan (I cannot complain about that ), but you can always change that option in Settings. At some point I would like to figure out a way to keep it super fast and also let the user decide whether to check that box or not.

 

Shame on you!

10 betas and nothing about cyrillic language issue!

So many people used it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabets

I think you lost so many customers with your disinterest!

That's why you begging me to remove youtube videos with bugs!
Enough for me!

 

And what part of the word BETA do you not understand? You are entitled to your opinion in the same way that Dan is entitled to focus on what he wants to, when he wants to and target the markets he wants to...he cannot cover EVERYWHERE (though he is IMHO opinion have a good try given the work he is putting in). That is MY opinion...and hopefully, one day there will be a version in translated into Cyrillic. It will be your loss, again IMHO, if 'Enough for me' means that you are not going to use VS going forward.

Baldrick

 

"17. Captcha on exit"

I understand the concept but do we need this with it password protected?

I know this is just me but I hate them darn Captcha's !!! I always have to type it is 3 or 4 times cause I get it wrong LOL

 

Right on Baldrick!

TH

 

Hi Dan,
Installed VS 2.20b beta over the top without any problem, and so far running well.
I see in your quite large 'to do' list at number 25 is integration with Crystal security. I have used Crystal Security quite a lot, trialling the various betas, (but not presently) and quite liked it, although it too has a number of bugs that I'm sure Kardo is working on. Integration with Crystal security is an interesting concept which I hope improves the effectiveness and functionality of VS, but one of the main plusses for VS is it's simplicity and lightness - so I hope all the new improvements don't sacrifice this and results in VS becoming bloated, which would be a turn off for many of us.

Best wishes
Gordon

 

I'm the one that suggested CAPTCHA for Extra protection of VS's processes from being terminated I know they are a PITA at times but it does work.

TH

 

Not only beta but and stable version does not work correctly in windows with cyrillic language! Big issue my friend!
Good Bye!