The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

How's the new version running for everyone?

 

The new version of Shadow Defender 1.4.0.553 bit is running well for me but as I use XP sp3, I do not see the option to use registry exclusions update as the registry exclusions do not work on XP. It is not a bug, It is meant to be that way.

sidenote
I am very pleased with the new hosting for The Official Shadow Defender Forum . It seems very stable and consistantly usable, so I'm hoping that members will benefit from this change.

 

Is it necessary to do a clean install or can I just install over the top?

 

I think that it is ok to install over the top but keep your registration number just in case it asks you for it again.
Make sure that you are not in Shadow Mode when you install

Personally, I always install clean and if you want to save your exclusion list to file, (outside Shadow Mode) (in advance of your installation) just look on your 'File Exclusion list' tab, you will see two little arrows over to your right in small grey boxes. If you hover over them you will see that they are for 'Save the exclusion list to file' etc.
I don't know if the registry exclusion list has the same options but I guess so.

 

Question, SD has ram option as ram write or ram disk internal write?
Is there way to see real hdd traffic after SD virtualization (like win handle of SD as process)...

 

arhaik
I don't know the answer to your question but if nobody answers from here you could try
support@shadowdefender.com and/or
The Official Shadow Defender Forum

Patrick

 

Version 1.4.0.519 has worked so well for me that i'm afraid to upgrade lol I will have to try it later today on a test machine. I have to leave now, but I wanted to check in since I saw there was a new SD release, and SD is one of my hall of fame security apps lol I will have to make my way back over to the Official SD support forum as well. Catch you guys later.

 

Kind of feeling the same way here with XP. What exactly does the latest version offer that .519 doesn't have?

 

http://www.shadowdefender.com/history.html
See also post #3546.

 

The BCD editing bug is fixed in version 1.4.0.553

 

Hi sdmod

Many thanks again for replying.
Thanks for your quick test.
I only reboot out of Shadow Mode to install updates, about once a week.
With Build .519 there is no wait on boot for it to enter Shadow Mode, it just appears [instantly] in Shadow Mode.
Strange thing is I have updated every version of Shadow Defender since 1.1.0.325 with out any problems.
And it not a big problem having to use .519.

Take Care
TheQuest

 

using latest vesion of SD and I noticed when I tried to edit my BCD using EasyBCD that I could not do it even when not in Shadow Mode as long as SD is installed. After uninstalling SD, then I could edit it. Is this the way it is supposed to work that even when not in Shadow mode, you cannot edit BCD and thanks.

Gary

 

My experience was different, as posted above. Using 553 and in shadow mode, I was able to modify the BCD using EasyBCD. When I rebooted, the changes I made were lost. I used Windows 7 x64.

 

I'm using Windows 7X64 Ultimate, and I have not had any problems out of .519. People that has not ever used SD before don't know what they are missing out on! I wonder how many Wilders members know that SD virtualizes track 0, and the hidden boot volume. I don't see how anyone would not want to use SD if it runs good on their machine.

 

I am in full agreement with you there Cutting_Edgetech

 

Robin,
Thanks and I think that is expected and I believe that is what I saw when in shadow mode but would be interested in anyone trying this test when not in shado mode but with SD 553 version installed and see what happens. Have emailed Tony and let him know about what I saw and will post back if I hear from him.

Gary

 

In my case it´s the same -- I can edit the BCD with EasyBCD and SD 553 installed, either in shadow mode or out of shadow mode.

 

Yes, this is strange why EasyBCD will not edit properly when not in shado mode with 553 installed but with 519 installed I can edit fine out of shadow mode with tha tprevious version installed. Will wait for Tony to reply.

Gary

 

Just thought I would share a clarification email I sent to Tony after he responded to my first email about problems editing BCD after SD 519 is installed and not being in shadow mode. Then after uninstalling SD 519, no problems editing BCD per usual. I don't think he understood my first email but he did respond and I hope this helps him sort some things out and you might test as well to see if you have this similar problem.

Tony,
Responding this way because I get returned mail when I try to reply to your messages. Have tested again with 553 and here are my finding on my Lenovo x220 running Win 7 Pro x64 and latest EasyBCD and SD 553 and the hiden Lenovo SRP partition.

1. Installed SD 553 over top of previous version but have tested with clean install of SD and nodifference.

2. Right after installing SD 553, launch EasyBCD and remove boot item labeled BIBM.

3. Rebooted and still saw text BIBM in boot menu but when selected it tells me no file is found. But, if working properly the item should not even be shown.

4. After reboot, launch EasyBCD again and it shows the BIBM item that I deleted earlier there again as if I had not delted it although no file exists associated with it in the boot menu.

5. Uninstall SD 553

6. Can now edit BCD in EasyBCD normally.

Again all this problem happened outside of shadow mode after I first installed 553. Hope this is clear and helps troubleshoot this problem and thanks for all.

Regards,
Gary

Will let you know what response I get from this but for now will stay with 519 which after I did some testing seems to let me edit BCD when out of shadow mode with SD installed and when I enter shadow mode, edit BCD and reboot in shadow mode, BCD changes disappear. So, for me at least, I guess this was not a problem on my system in 519.

Gary

 

a noob here, will shadow defender negatively impact my ssd if I run it in shadow mode most of the time? Thanks.

 

same problem again

Hi,

the newest version 1.4.0.553 doesnt work for me fine

if i go in hibernate status and then i wake up my pc, windows starts like crashed and not in the old state

i use win 7 64-bit, also a clean installation form SD doesn work

the older version 1.4.0.519 ist ok, its only at the new one

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...r-support-thread.293075/page-111#post-2263947

 

No problems so far, you can even add another layer with Wioski/Steadier State/manual VHD to keep changes with restart or discard later like ShadowDefender/DeepFreeze. Though not a big fan of vhd due to possible performance degraded when you're booting from a compressed vhd image file vs a standard partition set and can be compatibility hit. It depends on the combination of hardware/OS's.
Plus side besides being able to retain changes after restart is you can also use it in a VM or boot into natively from a bunch of VHD files with a single partition (or from removable drive) for multiple OS's with BCD edit and choose by multiboot. Either way personal preference and it's available as an option, haven't played with it much yet.

Ran separate DF and SD tests with some malware sample packs a while back. Where one passed through Deep Freeze but Shadow Defender blocked/discarded and vice-versa. Like this recent example before v553 SD letting low level changes or BCD editing while DF blocked.

Before trying out changes, drive image backup/restore are still the better "restart to restore" option like with IFW/IFL differential backups (always backup/restore out of Shadow/Frozen modes).


v553 blocks BCD, blocks low level access with tool like Bootice(versions below v519 can disk wipe, bcd, etc) and bcd edits works as normal when not in Shdow Mode...since some here mentioning bcd problems. Tested on current OS Win7x64, clean OS install image backup and in VM.

 

I am still correponding with and waiting on Tony's update to addressing the problems I was seeing with 553 on my system. I sent him more info and a file to test. Will keep all posted.

Gary

 

Just checked out hibernation with 553 in shadow mode. Worked perfectly, no problem at all.

Also, as posted before, I can edit the BCD both in shadow mode and outside of it.

It seems to me that these problems are not general, but probably dependent on configuration and other programs installed. I did these tests in an old Dell desktop with Windows 7 x64.