Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. pimjoosten

    pimjoosten Registered Member

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    Thanks, I will look into this. For a reason a have not been able to figure out I was unable to select the right backup drive at first, but finally was able to do that in a way I cannot remember. Maybe then I assumed that the My Backup folder was fixed under whatever location I select. Like I said, I will look into this, but I can only do so after I install TM again, because it was gone when I restored my Acronis image. Installing TM again only makes sense for me when the warm restore issue with Vista is solved, so it may take some time (or, hopefully, not).
     
  2. Peter2150

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    That is correct. You now have make the folder first however.

    Pete
     
  3. Peter2150

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    IMPORTANT

    More on TM and Raxco's Perfect disk. I have done a bunch of testing in my VM and it is clear there is a problem, but the problem is a failure of TM to be a good imaging program.

    THE TEST.

    The test enviornment was a VMware Workstation V10 virtual machine with 4 cores, 2g ram, and 2 60gb hard drives. Running update Win7 x64 and has my standard security software on it.

    The test itself. First I imaged the machine with ShadowProtect, Macrium Reflect Std, and of course the TM beta. Then I installed Perfect Disk Pro 13 and first looked at the disk layout. It was a mess stuff everywhere and even the system
    file all over the place. I did a first defrag to clean up the disk. Then I did a boot time defrag, and finally a 2nd defrag to really organize the disk.

    Lastly I took incremental images with all three programs. Finally I restored each before image installed PD and looked to see if the disk looked like it did before, namely a mess. Then I restored the 2nd image and looked to see if it now looked as it should

    Results;

    WIth Shadowprotect both images restored and every thing looked as it should
    With Macrium same results. Two successful restores.

    Now with TM. Note, in both restores I did have the mbr restored. The before restore worked fine. However the after restored failed and left the system unbootable. I then finished by restoring the 2nd macrium restore and it was fine.

    This tells me that it was a failure of TM to restore it's image. This has terrible implications as it means if you set aside chains and do a boot time defrag, the old chains are worthless.

    I think the problem is both the other imaging restored all the disk stuff. MBR,Partition table, track 0 etc. TM doesn't seem to do that.

    This is a very serious problem.

    Pete
     
  4. Peter2150

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    Waj

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  5. Zero3K

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    Another thing I noticed with the beta of v2.0 is that when I selected the directory containing the backups that were made using v1, instead of making an incremental backup using the baseline backup from v1, it started making another baseline backup.
     
  6. MPSAN

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    OK, I tested v2 with my 32 bit XP Pro and only 1GB of memory and ALL seems OK. I did notice that my first backup took almost 2 hours for about 32GB of data.

    I built the rescue CD and the USB Mouse still works so the Vitaly changes ARE in the dll.

    I noticed 1 thing with the rescue cd, however. I clicked EXIT and nothing happened. I went to the far top right and clicked close and that did work. Not sure what the EXIT is supposed to do.

    Also, I see that the software takes 8 mb on the system tray so I hope you can make CLOSE mean CLOSE if we are not doing an auto backup.
     
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  7. zfactor

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    very similar to what im seeing here. i kind of have the same feelings. i know of the issues though and up till this point never tried to do all this but i was curious and had some time between clients today to mess with it and im seeing the same situation.
     
  8. TheRollbackFrog

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    Pim, TM builds its RECOVERY MEDIA using a special WinRE.wim (Windows RECOVERY MEDIA) file provided by Windows as a resident file on the system. There are a couple of problems with this. Some OEM manufacturers remove that file when they build the system, and most older Windows systems did not have it on the system. When TM can't find this file, it asks for an installation DVD which does contain the file that it needs. My guess... your VISTA system does not contain this file in its build.

    In the W7 VM you won't have a problem because W7 provides that file in any build it makes.

    In the DESTINATION window, after you select your destination volume, at the bottom of the window you will find a BROWSE button which will allow you to select whatever folder you wish.
     
  9. Stigg

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    PerfectDisk is not a backup solution.
     
  10. TheRollbackFrog

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    Pete (Peter2150)... might this be a good time to break this thread (almost half a million views and over 7700 posts) and start a new one concerning Time Machine v2? The break could be done at Waj's v2 announcement, if this is at all possible.
     
  11. zfactor

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    kind of agree rollback.
     
  12. Jim1cor13

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    Hi folks :)

    I also agree with TRF and zfactor. Now would be a great time to get v 2 of AXTM in its own thread. I think it would lessen confusion as this is tested and problems are discussed.

    Congrats on getting the beta v 2 out :)

    Jim
     
  13. clubhouse1

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    That's a great idea, I assume that the ongoing problems (for those that have them) will eventually addressed in V2 anyway....These huge threads are a nightmare to navigate through to see if a problem you may be having has been addressed and resolved.

    This thread would be better left for those like me who have no interest in the extra features of V2...(V1 keeping it simple)
     
  14. Kapiti

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    Trying out TimeMachine v2 on two computers - one XP the other Windows 7 Ultimate.

    On the XP using the "Advanced Restore Settings" the hot restore box is permanently ticked and can't be unticked.
    Booting into the rescue disk (cd-rw) neither the mouse or keyboard is working.

    On the Windows 7 using the warm restore, at the boot stage neither the mouse of keyboard works, have to wait for the automatic time out.

    Booting into the rescue disk (cd-rw) neither the mouse or keyboard is working. However, using a flash drive the mouse and keyboard works correctly.

    At the boot screen the exit button doesn't work.

    On both computers there are Microsoft usb cordless keyboard and mouse installed (different models).

    Tried the hot restore on the xp seemed to work okay, unable to use the warm restore box permanently ticked - both hot and warm restores seemed to work okay on the Windows 7.

    Question: would it be okay to use an existing AX64 v 1.4.0.19 rescue disk to restore TM v2?
     
  15. Alhaitham

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    Agreed
     
  16. bgoodman4

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    FYI -
    FYI: It has been noted that in some cases MS USB mice do not work in this situation but Logitec USB mice do.

    I am pretty sure that waj indicated that new rescue media should be created for V2 ----- and that the old version of AX64 should be un-installed before installing the beta (worth repeating just in case).
     
  17. Gjbth

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    Windows 8.1 64 bit Time Machine 2 beta.

    On my network there are five ReadyNAS devices, all are visible in the browse for backup location dialog but I am unable to select any as the "OK" button is greyed out when choosing any of the NAS devices.

    In the backup explorer there is an icon labelled "mount". i assumed that selecting an image and clicking this icon would create a virtual drive in the native windows explorer. If this is the intention then this does not work on my system.
     
  18. aigle

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    Tried it on a windows 8.1 32 bit tablet, Lenovo miix 8. Version 1 never worked on it but v2 beta worked fine. Imaged C drive and restored back just fine. Only issue that touch screen did not work during restore( because of no touch screen drivers) but it was OK as warm restore was fully automatic.

    Well done.
     
  19. bgoodman4

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    So, I guess this suggestion was a dumb one but I cannot for the life of me see why. Surely AX64 will not see the plugging in of a jump/thumb drive as the creation of a new partition that it has to back up,,,,,so why would it see the plugging in of an external drive as a new partition that it has to attend to.

    Must be a dumb day,,,,as I age they occur more frequently.
     
  20. Selukwe

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    Noticed the same in Win7(x86) SP1 - clicking on Mount doesn't do anything. Later releases of v1 also had this problem, though I remember this worked in earlier v1 releases.

    It works OK in both AX64TM v 1 as well as TM beta 2 in WinXP SP3, though.
     
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  21. pimjoosten

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    Thanks for the feedback Froggie. It must then be that only starting with Windows 7 WinRE.wim is a resident file on the system, because I have installed Vista using an official Microsoft installation DVD and not from an OEM recovery disc.

    That is good to know. As I explained in an earlier post something went wrong when selecting my back-up drive, and thus was not 100% certain that I can change the folder. Now I am.
     
  22. aigle

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    I think I was too fast to judge the beta.

    I am getting these errors very frequently.
     

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  23. Kit1cat

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    Just gave v2 another try, same problem as yesterday when trying a warm/hot restore from the v2 backup's "The original partition cannot be found" but I did manage to do a warm restore to my orignal drive (ssd) from a v1 backup, it was slow but restored ok. Windows 7 64 bit
     
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  24. dagrev

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    Echo serious dislike for V2 UI. Looks like RealCopy.
     
  25. TheRollbackFrog

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    I can confirm Aigle's experience (Post #7797) using a Samsung ATIV Smart PC tablet running W8.1upd1 (non-RT). I believe both devices use an eMMC storage element as their primary storage.

    The iitial BASELINE followed by a WARM RESTORE to that BASELINE from a slightly modified system partition went fine. Errors occur when doing snapshots and/or MERGEs. Logs sent to SUPPORT.
     
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