SecureAPlus Freemium

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by sinlam, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    I agree 100%.

    I can pay U$20~30 dollars for a 3 PC/lifetime license. :thumb:

    I will test this software on weekend. It looks very good.

    A suggestion: always lets the option of install only the AE. I mean, in the future, do not remove this option. ;)

    Sorry for my english!
     
  2. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi ExtremeGamerBR, welcome to SecureAPlus Forum. Thanks for your suggestion. Your suggested price will be taken into consideration :) Hope you will help me to cast your vote regarding the best licensing model for SecureAPlus paid version at https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=359712.

    We are currently working on a new, revamped version of SecureAPlus and the beta 1 version is coming up around end of this month for testing. If you are interested to give your comment on how to make SecureAPlus a better security software, please feel free to join our beta program at http://beta.secureaplus.com.

    Hope to see you there.

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  3. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Is very good to have a support like that. Sincerely, to have this, I can pay more for a license. :)

    I will test friday the latest stable version. If I like, I will not hesitate to help in beta! :thumb:
     
  4. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Thanks for the compliment :) Hope you will like SecureAPlus. If you do encounter any problem, please feel free to post it here.

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  5. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    :thumb:

    Well, I tested the SecureAPlus. Here is my impressions:

    The program does NOT have the option to put a password to protect the settings and to allow execution. This is essential for this type of program and it is very easy to implement.
    The program does NOT allow you to change the whitelist. If during the first run (when it creates the whitelist) I have a program installed and then I remove it, it will continue on the whitelist?
    The program does NOT have a blacklist.
    The program does NOT allow you to start the software as trusted only once, or block it only once.
    The program does NOT let you delete the initial database and redo it. This is useful if I let SoftwareAPlus installed for a long time and want a refresh.

    However, the program is very simple and interesting. I installed the version without antivirus and loved the simplicity. Did very well its basic work. Has great potential to become more complete.

    I'll keep it for now. I would like your opinion on my thoughts and want you to know that I will support the project.

    If I notice anything else I'll post here in the topic. :thumb:

    Excuse my English and if I have missed something;
     
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
  6. clubhouse1

    clubhouse1 Registered Member

    I'd like to see a 'purge' button to remove entries that applies to software that have been uninstalled (sometimes the exe names are difficult to relate to the software)...Maybe this will come in the future developments.
     
  7. Tarnak

    Tarnak Registered Member

    When I installed SecureAplus on my system on January 1, I took a series of screenshots while installing.

    I have my system separated into applications installed on the c: drive and data and other information on the H: drive. [ transferred over from a failing F: drive]

    Referring back to one of these screenshots, I notice it scanned into the initial database, a file from the H: drive.

    I have today taken a screenshot of that file and overlayed it on that original image of the screen image capture from January,1.

    ScreenShot_SecureAplus_initial database_01.gif

    It seems strange that it would need to take this sort of personal information, and place it in "Initial database:".

    If it was required, where is this information on my computer, besides where I know it be, i.e. on my H: drive.

    Can I remove that kind of information from this 'database'?

    Hope, you can see where I am coming from, regarding private information.
     
  8. KaptainBug

    KaptainBug Registered Member

    I think it does have trust once option. I remember it was there before. Lately I did not get any pop-ups to confirm this.
     
  9. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Indeed, my mistake.

    I've seen better now, it really has this option! :thumb:
     
  10. KelvinW4

    KelvinW4 Registered Member

    I have asked that, but they said that it is not necessary.
     
  11. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    I ran it a little more:

    What do you think about the execution of DLLs? It allows the execution of DLLs?
    What do you think about .reg files?
    There a "Disable" or "Unlock" mode? I want to execute some applications without put it in a whitelist and not be troubled by pop-ups.
    If you put a password protection, maybe add a way to close it by the tray icon can be useful.
    I can close it through the Task Manager, a malware doesn't can do this too?

    It's all for now. :thumb:

    Thank you!
     
  12. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Thanks ExtremeGamerBR for testing and your feedback :thumb: Hope to hear more comments ;)

    This was suggested previously. Instead of using password, SecureAPlus security is tied to Windows Account. You can read my full explanation at https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=2260044&highlight=password#post2260044, post #38.

    Yes, if you remove a program, it will continue on the whitelist. One of the existing SecureAPlus Beta Testers had suggested to purge the erased files from the whitelist in the SecureAPlus Beta Forum but this is not viable based on our existing architecture. You can read my reply to him below.

    forum.png

    If you have already signed up as SecureAPlus Beta Tester, you can login to the beta portal and go to http://beta.secureaplus.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.0 to read more about it.

    You can actually modify the whitelist by adding or removing the entry manually. You can remove any of the entry from the whitelist by doing the following:

    1. At SecureAPlus Main Console, click on "Application Whitelisting" button.

    whitelist1.png

    2. Click on "Advanced Settings" button.

    whitelist2.png

    3. Select the entry you wish to remove from the whitelist. Click on the "Remove" button and then click on the "Apply" button.

    whitelist3.png


    Just to clarify. Is the blacklist which you are referring to created from the user's computer, just like the whitelist?

    Yes, you are right. There is no option to delete the initial whitelist and redo it again. The only way to do it now is to uninstall and reinstall SecureAPlus.

    If you have more comments about what I have replied, please feel free to voice it out :) I am really glad that you find the program very simple and interesting. I also hope that you will get to love this program and even recommend your friends to use it ;)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     

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    Last edited: Feb 9, 2014
  13. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Thanks ExtremeGamerBR for your further testing and I hope you will continue to do more testing :)

    As long as it is not trusted, it cannot run. But SecureAPlus actually does more than just monitoring file extensions like exe, dll, msi, vb script. It will be a major security flaw if it just monitors file extensions.

    We have this "Trust all" mode. Simply click on SecureAPlus tray icon, do a right-mouse click and select any of the trust all options. Please use this option with caution since there is no application whitelisting protection when this mode is chosen.

    trustall.png

    You may end the SecureAPlus process through the Task Manager but the Application Whitelisting engine / service is still running. So whitelisting protection will still be functioning.

    Hope this helps to answer your query. Please feel free to give more comment :)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  14. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi Clubhouse and Kelvin, you can read my reply to ExtremeGamerBR or read more discussion about this in SecureAPlus Beta Forum, http://beta.secureaplus.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.0 :)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  15. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Thanks for the answer!

    I am liking more and more of this program! :thumb:

    I understand the idea of the user account, but I still prefer to put a password to change the settings and enable the execution, because I can leave my computer on and someone home mess with it without me know.

    I understand the whitelist question, however the option to redo the initial dabase would be viable, and would exclude these obsolete entries, what do you think?

    I figured a way around the blacklist option, I just put the potentially insecure programs as untrusted. :thumb:

    Interesting to know about the task manager, then I still protected. :thumb:

    Through their responses I understood more about the program, and realized that even though it is simple, it is very flexible and adaptable. :D

    So all that figured so far, the only two functions that I want you to implement is the possibility of a password protection and redo the initial database without reinstalling the program. ;)

    Sorry for my english!
     
  16. Pedersen

    Pedersen Registered Member

    Support the redo of the initial database without reinstalling the program but dont see why it need a password. There are no settings within the program that strictly needs to be protected from outside influence.
     
  17. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Imagine that your daughter will use your computer while you are working. She does not exchange user because she will only see a little something on the internet.

    But for some reason this thing comes together with a virus. The SecureAPlus will ask if you want to run it, your daughter by not knowing what to do, allows the execution. The computer is infected.

    Now, imagine a password, that she does not know, is necessary to allow the execution. Permission will not be granted and the virus will not run.

    This event can occur even with your mother, your cousin, your brother, your father and so on.

    Only I use my computer, but many people don't have the same lucky.

    Think about it. :thumb:

    Sorry for my English!
     
  18. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi Tarnak,
    Sorry to have missed your post somehow...

    During the initial whitelisting process, SecureAPlus will read the header and once it verifies that it is not executable, it will skip the file and will not whitelist it. During whitelisting, it may display every file name that it has processed but not all the displayed file names displayed will be added into the whitelist, especially if they are non-executable.

    You can verify by checking the trust level of any non-executable file by doing a right-mouse click. It will show "Not Trusted", that means it is not included in the whitelist.

    trust_level.jpg

    Hope this helps to answer your doubt.

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  19. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi ExtremeGamerBR, I have a better idea now why you need a password. But some users may find it a hassle having to enter a password every time a message prompt appears, asking whether to run a file.

    So for SecureAPlus, we have tied it to Windows Account to save such hassle. In this scenario that you have described, you can set up another Windows user account and configure SecureAPlus trusted account settings. Here are the steps:

    1. Set up two Windows user accounts. One for the parent and one for the daughter. Both can be administrator.

    2. Go to SecureAPlus --> Application Whitelisting --> Advanced Settings. Click on the "Trusted Accounts" tab. Remove "Administrators" from the Trusted Groups. Then, add in the Windows account name of the parent, eg. "MyAccount", to the "Trusted Users".

    trusted_account1.png

    trusted_account2.png

    3. If your daughter is using the computer, login to Windows using her Windows user account. If any program not found in the whitelist attempts to run, SecureAPlus will block automatically without prompting whether to trust it or not.

    There is another way to do it. If you find setting up another Windows user account a hassle, you can change SecureAPlus to "Lockdown Mode" by doing a right-mouse click on SecureAPlus tray icon.

    lockdown.png

    Under this "Lockdown Mode", any program that is not found in the whitelist will be blocked from running automatically. But if you need to install any new software, please remember to trust it as an installer. Otherwise, it will be blocked from running.

    Hope this helps. If you have any more comment, please feel free to post it :)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  20. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi ExtremeGamerBR and Pedersen,

    Regarding the feature to delete the entire initial whitelist and re-do the whitelist, it can be done with a button added to the UI, without having to uninstall and reinstall SecureAPlus. But this is more of an advanced feature that normal users may not be using it much. Perhaps both of you or any of the Wilders' members can elaborate more on the user's benefits by having this feature.

    Hope to hear more comments about this feature :)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  21. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    First of all, thank you for being so present to help us with questions and listen to our suggestions. It's really something I admire in any company.

    I understood everything you wrote, and I think the Lockdown mode will guarantee my safety regarding these problems. I was already using this mode, but only now I saw it in this aspect. As I said, the more I learn about this program, more I like it.

    I think I'm satisfied using it in that way. Thank you! ;)

    Okay, so the whole list that I did, the only thing I think should be implemented is the possibility of redoing the original database. Please pay special attention to this.

    Thanks again for your attention! :thumb:

    You just won a new user of your software. :)
     
  22. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Yes, I believe that most basic users will not see value in this option. But your software is not used only by basic users.

    Although I do not get often installing new software, I think after a few months of use the whitelist can have some obsolete and unnecessary entries. It would be nice if, as I leave my computer on downloading a large file, I can redo the whitelist and thus not stay with these unnecessary entries. :thumb:

    If this will have any practical difference, I do not know. But I think it would be a simple option and that would end these questions about delete entries from the whitelist etc.

    Hypothetical case: I have malware on my system when I did the first whitelist, but I could only detect it at the weekend while performing a weekly scan with my anti-malware.To avoid the risk of me being infected by the same malware and it being in my withelist, I would have to reinstall SecureAPlus. Something that could be much easier to solve if I could just click a button and redo the database. This may seem an unlikely event, but not impossible.

    Thank you! :thumb:
     
  23. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Hi ExtremeGamerBR, we are extremely glad that we manage to win you over to become a new SecureAPlus users :D This is a great encouragement and a good motivating force to us. We hope to win many more users and to get as many people as possible to appreciate the great benefits of application whitelisting. It will be great if you can recommend SecureAPlus to your friends ;)

    Yes, you are right to say that SecureAPlus is not only for basic users. The hypothetical case which you have cited has a valid point that is worth taking into consideration :)

    Hi guys, any more comment regarding the deleting and refreshing the entire whitelist option? At this moment, we are giving this feature a low priority but please help us to change our mind. ExtremeGamerBR has already mentioned a good point. Hope all of you can share with me other benefits of adding this feature. ;)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
  24. ExtremeGamerBR

    ExtremeGamerBR Registered Member

    Glad to help you, even if only with motivating words! I have already installed on my laptop and my mom's computer and I'll see the possibility of installing it on more computers.

    Good to know that you are considering this option, I will wait anxiously. :thumb:

    By the way, what can we expect of the next releases? What are you planning to implement?

    Thanks!
     
  25. sinlam

    sinlam Registered Member

    Glad that you have asked about the next releases. We are in the process of revamping SecureAPlus to improve on its protection capability. If you have already signed up as a SecureAPlus Beta Tester, you can login to http://beta.secureaplus.com to find out more. After login, you can also access the beta forum to engage in some active discussions with other beta testers. The actual beta 1 software will be out soon for testing and I anticipate that there will be even more discussion in the beta forum. As far as possible, we want to keep the discussion about the new product concept within SecureAPlus Beta Forum and not in Wilders since it is not officially launched yet. Hope you will understand :)

    It will be great if I can see you in SecureAPlus Beta Forum :)

    Cheers,
    sinlam
     
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