Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. Jryder54

    Jryder54 Registered Member

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    I havent had any problems but I run it on-demand. You're mileage may vary.
     
  2. EASTER

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    Heh. I'm not much in sales department matters demoneye but i am perfectly comfortable making a one better suggestion then the above.

    How about diving straight in to AX64 TM and test your own personal ideas out on it's features and it's simplicity of use, since you already depend on DS "saving you when the day comes" :cool:

    Come on in, the water's fine. :D

    Regards EASTER
     
  3. Alexhousek

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    I just don't understand some people....

    I backup my system in multiple ways; not just 2. I happen to use Mozy and backup to their cloud servers. Mozy also happens to backup at the same time to my external HD. (Document or file backups)

    Then, on top of that, I use AX64 AND Paragon. I don't believe you can ever have too many backups and too many backup processes and mechanisms.

    So, I backup to the cloud, to my external hd, and then to DVD's. In addition, I backup using AX64 and image backup with Paragon.

    Am I paranoid about losing my data? Yep.
     
  4. demoneye

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    that is totally nonsense , and i can prove it easily , lets say you have 10 snap made by ax64 , and you want to restore snap 3 .... it will take you long time to do it you be shocked ! i tried that my self having only 4 snapt and revert to number 2... so from 10 snaps you will shortly have a de ja vo of ATI :argh: while it restore your image :p
     
  5. demoneye

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    backing up important stuff like you do is OK , my point is only on DRIVE C:\ where to OS is .... making other stuff like photos or important DOC files holding in many places is reasonable :thumb:
     
  6. Isso

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    Chamlin,

    Since it's an XP, then most likely cloning it to a new machine won't work with current AX64 version, sorry.

    Isso
     
  7. Isso

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    Acadia,

    Thank you so for your understanding! Indeed, the merge of two companies significantly impacted the development speed at this moment. However after the hard work is done, we'll be able to move much faster than before.

    Isso
     
  8. Isso

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    EASTER,

    I really appreciate it, in fact it's the support of you guys that helps us to move forward. :thumb:

    Isso
     
  9. Isso

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    demoneye,

    Sorry to hear it. Indeed, backup verification is needed and we will add it in one of the upcoming versions.

    Isso
     
  10. Isso

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    apaert,

    Please send the logs and file a ticket and I'll look into it. Thank you

    Isso
     
  11. Acadia

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    Exactly! Never trust ANY backup program 100%, not even AX64, FirstDefense, ShadowProtect, Macrium, built-in Windows, Acronis, Paragon, Redo, DiscWizard ... ad infinitum ....

    Acadia
     
  12. Chamlin

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    Thanks, Isso. I'll patiently wait.

    Isso, or anyone else, since I have 3 drives I want to back up, 1 with OS & programs and the other two with different types of data; what is the best process to follow to back all of these up? Do I use AX64 on each drive and come up with some kind of naming convention? We can copy and restore data only drives, yes?

    Thanks,
    Chamlin

     
  13. stapp

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    I always make a system image using Microsoft's built-in as a safety net and have one for Win 8.1.

    On Win 8.1 just go to Control Panel ...File History...and hiding bottom left of page is System Image Backup.
     
  14. taotoo

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    I agree that going back several snapshots can slow things down, however in my experience even then it's still twice as quick as doing a full reimage, and 90% of the time I only want to go back to the most recent snapshot.
     
  15. demoneye

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    Sorry , but i dont share same thought as you , i was (and still does) using DS for more than 10 years , and never ever it fail me , i ALWAYS test image after it made ( what was lack of ax64 atm) so no way any image can be bad what so ever !

    and like i said before , i am not going to pay TWICE for backup software like i don't gonna pay to two anti virus or any other similar duplex software .

    if you play it smart and using the right software (in this case image one) it will never fail you ! and i hold the proof for that , using in this case DS more than 10 years restoring an backup and always it work for me .:cautious:
     
  16. Kit1cat

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    You're choice, but I would not feel safe just using one backup program. You're image might well be good at the time of testing but could easily get corrupted in every day use of the computer, due to various reasons, power cuts, harddrive faults, viruses etc. I hope at least you keep a backup of your image on another drive/media.
     
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  17. Kit1cat

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    Good advice :thumb:
     
  18. jwcca

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    How many would be enough? Because, as you then say:

    Thus all your backup could be damaged so you've gained nothing by having multiple programs.

    This is the best way, keep the OS separate from the data and have multiple physical drives used in rotation. Of course this costs more money... but how much is your data worth? (The OS and programs can always be re-installed, the data may be impossible to recreate).

    J
     
  19. demoneye

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    man , so keep the tested image in 2 place (removable device for example) right ? so no hardware fault NO image corrupted no power cut what so ever.... YOU don't necessarily need 2 backup program ... just an open mind :D
     
  20. Peter2150

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    I have to make a couple of comments about all this.

    First a few of you might know that I beta tested for Shadowprotect quite a few years. In that process I must have done over a thousand restores on my various computers. I worked with and learned from the Storagecraft imaging guru. He has been involved with imaging drivers going way way back.

    First thing I learned about is verify. Verify basically confirms the image is healthy and it generates a checksum. Biggest value is that if you keep images for a longer period you can verify them again and make sure the checksum is the same. That you know it is still good. Does it compare it with the original data. No, because if it did, it for sure wouldn't verify in two years.

    If the image verifies okay does that mean it will restore. Maybe. For sure if it doesn't verify it won't. But just because it does verify doesn't mean it will restore. There is only one sure way to know, and that is to restore.

    Demoneye you say I believe DS has served you well for 10 years. No doubt, but how many restores have you done. And even that is no guarantee.

    Then there are the bugs. Hopefully they all get found before release. One of the reasons that the SD folks like me to test is not only did I do restores, but when I did them rather then just overwrite the partition, I would delete the whole volume and then restore as if it was truly bare metal.

    One of the last releases I tested, had such minor changes they didn't really feel it needed testing, but what the heck so I gave it a run. I did everything I normally did, including selecting the restore image, and deleting the volume.
    I was a bit shocked when all of a sudden I got an error saying there was no source image. It turned out that not only had the disk volume I was restoring got deleted, but every disk the system got see got deleted. Horror of horrors. They found indeed a bug had been introduced. Fortunately for me they were able to figure out what happened to the disks, and were actually able to get back the drive which had the images, and from that I could restore my c: drive. Phew. That bug almost went out in release.

    The assumption it has worked for years so I am safe is flawed. Believe it or not, when I test new version of any imaging, I now image the drive that contains the images.

    Do what works for you based on your needs, but just know the risks.


    Finally to those who are having real issues with AX64 I would agree be patient. From what I can see Isso has been an amazing job so far. It will get better.

    Pete
     
  21. Kit1cat

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    Good point, but I have a SSD drive and 2 hard drives in my system. The OS and programs are on the SSD drive, backups from AX64 on one harddrive and backup's from EaseUS on the other hard drive, not fool proof I know, but better then having it all on one drive plus data backed up to harddrive and usb stick.
     
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  22. Acadia

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    I only ever purchased backup software twice, all the others that I have used, at least several, were free and still excellent.

    Acadia
     
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  23. samy

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    Peter , Excellent point.

    Please can you elaborate the process and the reason for that

    tanks
     
  24. Kit1cat

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    OK, if you are happy to back up (in my case) 40GB of data every time you want to make a new image, rather a slow process on my system. A better solution for me is 2 back up programs that each take a couple of minutes to complete.
     
  25. MerleOne

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    Just my 2 cents about testing : I usually don't rely on the internal testing mechanism of any imaging tool. I prefer to mount the image as a virtual disk and perform a chkdsk on it. When the archive is corrupt, the chkdsk returns a lot of errors and this has saved me several times of not keeping useless incremental or differential images.

    With AX64, I must say the chkdsk takes ages, compared to other imaging tools where the mounted image seems much quicker.

    Still, this doesn't change the 'genericity" of the method. And there is no 100% foolprof method, even a restore is not enough : you have to check everything is still working. Last time I cloned my system onto a SSD, and booted from the SSD, everything seemed fine at first, then I realized a day or two after that system restore had an issue and also that the sound card was not functionning.
     
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