Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. Werderforever

    Werderforever Registered Member

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    I´m sure, that Isso an Waj are solving the problems with restoring. Please give Isso and Waj and AX64 a chance. The idea behind AX64 is great, but it needs a little bit more time.:)

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  2. bgoodman4

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    Understandable that you are concerned but I would ask 1 question and offer a suggestion.

    First the question. ----- Are you able to see the contents of the failed to restore to image in the AX64 browser? If you are you could easily recover the lost work.

    Second, the suggestion. ------ If Ax64 works most of the time then it would make sense to me for you to use AX64 in conjunction with DS. Use DS as you would if you were not using AX64 and let AX64 run quietly in the background. If you need to restore and a hot AX64 restore works then you have saved yourself a lot of time. If it fails then you have your DS image to fall back on.

    I have been using AX64 for quite some time and am not at all concerned about AX64 failures yet I still regularly use a 2nd imaging program "just in case". I also will NEVER rely on just one imaging app so no matter how reliable AX64 becomes I will continue to use a 2nd app (see my signature).
     
  3. jelson

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    Right on. But perhaps, I'm just jaded.

    I used to use Acronis TrueImage for many years and got used to getting only canned replies from their support. Not to mention I finally learned to use the final release of the previous version. Current version was always very buggy and not to be trusted.

    Personally, I'm a bit astonished by the support offered by Isso et al. Kudos guys.
     
  4. demoneye

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    i cant mount the bad snap , even it says it did , when u browse to the drive it CANT access it.

    your suggestion is interesting but i don't need/want to use 2 backup software , and yes DS can act like ax64 np , if speed is your concern try restore a snap 1 in a raw of 5 already taken snap and you will see the speed sux big time ... no more fast snap restore ... even DS is faster.

    IMPORTANT NOTE FOR ISSO

    all above can be avoided easily if integrate check was implement into ax64
     
  5. Peter2150

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    There already is a simple integrity check of sorts. I always test restore every backup taken. That way I know it's good, and also at that point if it should fail I can cope. I have had "hot" restores fail, but never once a "cold" restore.

    Also I still routinely take images with Shadow Protect. If you refuse to take occasional backups with something else it is only a matter of when not if.

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  6. demoneye

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    first , how do u test taken snap ? i didnt see any option like it in Ax64...o_O
    and YES ,been backed by another backup software is a good idea BUT its a stupid idea IMO , its like having 2 cars just in case one of them wont get its engine start at the morning... :D

    like i said before , i used to backup my c:\ drive using DS with no bad restore what so ever .... i was doing over 100 backup/restore procedure over the past 12 years i am using it.

    i dont wont to insults isso or its software , but in my humble opinion this software need to go threw a LOT (bug fixes etc`) in order to compete other like it.
     
  7. MarcP

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    I have a C: drive (the OS) and a D: drive (the apps). AX64 doesn't support multiple drives/partitions yet therefore the need of a 2nd backup app. How is that stupid?
     
  8. demoneye

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    it seems clearly you didn't read all the relevant to my issue , i was talking on DRIVE C:\ only ....

    what peter says is to secure drive c:\ with another backup software and that an over kill for sure .:cool:
     
  9. wajamus

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    Hi Demoneye, Strode and other new folks trialing our software,

    You are correct that we must continue to refine our product and iron out the bugs. We're already really happy that the majority of users seem to enjoy the software. But ultimately we will never be satisfied until we sway over folks like yourself, too!

    We do apologize about the inconsistent release expectations regarding Win 8.1 fix.

    Also a side thanks to Easter, Acadia, Jryder54, Peter, Chamlin, Baldrick, bgoodman4, twl845, VP marketing guy (Froggie) and all the other fine folks for sticking up for our software. It can get tough, but morale is always high with you guys behind us.

    Thank you,

    Waj
     
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  10. Acadia

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    Comparing apples to oranges. Cars are MUCH more reliable than computer software.

    There is a 100% probability that you will thankful that your system was backuped by another program. Even my beloved, trusted FD-ISR let me down twice in 10-11 years. One of those times required another program to save me and it SAVED EVERYTHING!!!!! I would have had to reinstall Windows from scratch and even THAT is assuming that I would be able to boot at all.

    Name me one program, backup, security, or otherwise, that works 100% of the time.

    What can it possibly hurt to have another safety net?

    Take care,
    Acadia
     
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  11. Peter2150

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    How do I test a new snapshot. Simple, I restore it.

    Is it stupid to have two backups. Depends. If it doesn't matter if you lose data, then you are correct. For me I run my business with no paper, so having the data and computers backup properly is vital. I do a lot more then just 2 images.

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  12. twl845

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    Having a second backup with a different app like Macrium, is like buying fire insurance. My house has never caught fire but I still pay my fire insurance premiums.
    In reference to your comment about AX64 needing a lot of bug fixes, are we talking about the same AX64 I'm using? I'm running v1120 and can't make it screw up.
     
  13. EASTER

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    I'll throw in my 2 cents just to see where it can land, if at all. I can honestly relate to the success of DriveSnapshot's backup and restore track record, for my XP units it was virtually flawless in every respect. However, enter an alternative in FD-ISR, and better yet now, AX64 Time Machine, And it's easy to see that this newest imaging program has completely revived early on, the incremental/snapshot innovation that first defense seemed to spawn with even more enhanced speed and direct friendly support i might add.

    On the point of having 2 backup imaging programs, that should for all practical purposes be a no brainer, and is for most. Because as Pete mentioned, it's not a matter of "if" but "when" either human or machine error suddenly happens. It shouldn't be looked at as overkill as much as simply a fallback measure.

    The practice of relying on 2 imaging apps as opposed to just a single one is really similar as the same measures many take for they're pc security in applying a layered approach.

    Only in imaging, usually one additional backup plan is enough.

    Of course all softwares are occasionally subject to pressing issues & rigorous demands but this one is rather unique in it's methods and from my experience with AX64 TM the results are worthwhile compared to any other options of this type.

    Regards EASTER
     
  14. demoneye

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    ooww my .... you ppl dont get it do u ? if i need to use and BUY for my pc everything twice ... i will ended broke !

    another angle ... do you fox use 2 ANTI VIRUS at the same time ? do you ACADIA ? if not why not ?maybe AV 1 will catch what AV 2 was missing :D

    i am sure u aren't .... so what is the lecture you try to pass in here? you make no sense man !
     
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  15. ratchet

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    I believe it was about post 2,477,218 (benign sarcasm) that I inferred restore problems may start if there are to many stored snapshots. I only have around a dozen since I re-installed AX but I'm thinking about deleting 11, 10...1 and finally the base-line, then a quick format of the storage drive. Will this work? I've always only been a person who restores from the last "good" image, whether it's from W7s app, Paragon or AX, so I don't need a whole bunch of snapshots or images. Thank you!
     
  16. DjeM

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    Can I use both Shadow Defender and AX64 Time Machine on the same computer?
     
  17. ratchet

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    Poor analogy as you can't use two A-Vs! What if lightening struck your house and fried all of your drives? What if someone broke into your home and stole your external HD? In either case, if you at least had backed up to two different medias you'd be covered. I've had W7, Paragon and AX all fail, at least the first attempt at a restore. I've restored the same image again and it's worked. At any rate, this isn't a lecture, it is a point of view just like yours is!
     
  18. taotoo

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    If on Win 7 just use the built in imaging as a safety net. It won't cost you anything. I believe you can also now do this on Win 8/8.1 but stand to be corrected.
     
  19. bgoodman4

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    Like they say in relation to investing

    "PAST PERFORMANCE IS NO GUARANTEE OF FUTURE PERFORMANCE"

    Just because something has worked in the past is no guarantee it will in the future. I used to use Acronis True Image and for years had never had an issue restoring, then, after years of successful restores I had a corrupted image. Thats when I began using 2 imaging apps. If one fails the other might work.

    As far as the car analogy is concerned its not really valid. There are many free imaging apps to chose from and you can set many of them up to automatically create an image. There are no free cars available and its much easier to store and maintain a software app than it is a car.

    Of course everyone is free to follow whatever protocol they choose. If you are happy with DS and the speed it gives you on restores thats great.
     
  20. TheRollbackFrog

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    Of course you wont be able to delete the most recent snap, but feel free to start with most recent snap-1 and head back (using DELETE in the browser) all the way to the original BASELINE... all should merge nicely into the most recent snap (although that last DELETE operation, your original BASELINE, will take about as much time as it took to originally take). At that point, feel free to re-label your fully merged recent snap to make more sense possibly (like "Baseline dated <dd/mm/yyyy").

    I've done this many time without problem.

    PS- remember, though... since AX64 TM uses TEMP files for its MERGING operations (to protect the files involved until the operation is successful), you'll need at least as much FREE space to merge a BASELINE as the baseline itself... probably a li'l more to be safe. When the MERGE is complete, you'll get that space back.
     
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  21. TheRollbackFrog

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    From the AX64 website...

    Shadow Defender
     
  22. bgoodman4

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    NO, no one is saying 2 of every app, just 2 imaging apps. And no, not 2 AV programs, but multiple security programs one of which will be an AV, to which you might add a firewall, an anti -malware app (malware bites for example) etc etc. It depends on your comfort level and your needs.

    I am more comfortable with 2 imaging apps than I would be with 1. I also am more comfortable creating multiple images on multiple external drives and storing some drives in a different location. I used to backup critical files to the cloud but lately I have stopped doing this. My comfort level has changed.

    As I just said above (in effect) everyone if different. If you are happy with DS then by all means use it, but please, do not criticize others who have a different comfort level and a different protocol than you do.
     
  23. bgoodman4

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    This is not recommended. SD is known to cause problems with AX64.
     
  24. demoneye

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    i am not "criticize " anyone , i just saying what should say , the issue you and some other users over here are using 2 backup software like ax64 and another just show how much you "trust " ax64 saving you when the day is come:D
     
  25. taotoo

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    Well why don't you just go back to DS? You'll have plenty of time to appreciate its reliability while you're waiting for it to restore an image.
     
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