TeraByte Product Release Thread

sadly image for windows or linux have not a clone feature
Bibm uses the dos version that's slower

 

Yes they do. Both have Copy. Use IFW or IFL if you prefer them over IFD.

 

and is it fast to recover?, i will read how can i save the mbr or the fist track? which should save to have a safe restore?
i have the manual , in english but i can find the option to save the mbr or first track
thanks again!

 

You don't have to do anything special. The First Track is saved in all TeraByte images. It can be restored or not restored.

 

and how can i restore only the first track having an image?

may i know how can i do ? save/restore the MBR?
is there a different between MBR and first track

Thanks Brian

 

mantra,

The MBR is a single sector, LBA-0. The First Track is 63 sectors, LBA-0 to LBA-62.

Page 12 in the TBOSDT userguide describes how to copy and restore sectors. Page 13 says...

The /w parameter is intended for use by those who know exactly what they are doing. You must be very careful when using the /w parameter. It is only available in interactive mode and will abort in script mode.

So, unless you know exactly what you are doing then ask for advice before attempting a sector restore. It's highly likely you will be doing something that could overwrite your partition table in an unpleasant way. Restoring the First Track doesn't entail these dangers because it doesn't restore an incorrect partition table.

 

agreed i have actually done that in experimenting with ifw. luckily i had another backup and was able to restore the image to a entirely new drive (which was originally my end intention anyway)

also if you prefer just make a backup (full) then swap drives and restore to the new drive. as long as not smaller it will restore just fine (and im not sure if they can restore to smaller drives i just dont remember off the top of my head though i dont think you can i know you restore to same or larger drives)

 

i haven't TBOSDT userguide sadly
i have BIBM and image for windows/linux pdf
so is not so easy to backup mbr and first track,isn't it? i thought to select an hard drive , select the mbr and save

where is this option ?

maybe is there a tool to run off line to save/restore mbr and first track

 

Then you are licensed for TBOSDT. Get it from your download page.

For all restores, the TeraByte apps give you the option to Restore First Track. But there is no need to do it if you are restoring to the same HD as the First Track is already there. I'd choose it when restoring to a new HD.

Don't get hung up on the MBR or First Track. In most cases you can forget about it and the TeraByte app will make the correct decision.

TeraByte's MBRWork will do this but unless you understand what you are doing you are likely to create a disaster.

 

ok
in short i asked lots of questions
but the point was about if i lose partitions ,BIBM can fix the problem
but you said only if i have the mbr and first track intact

 

Let's make sure we are discussing the same topic. Why do you think you would lose a partition? Please provide a specific example.

 

well i could happen
i did happen with true image
i tried the active revocery i wasn't able to do it
i used getdataback

in case i was to be prepared

thanks Brian!

 

Let me give you an example. I had no MBR or First Track backup.

Two partitions were on the HD. I deleted both. Then I deleted the MBR and the First Track. That sounds drastic.

10 seconds later I had a MBR and both partitions (containing the original data) back on the HD. All done without a MBR backup. It wasn't needed.

 

it's an example , you delete the 2 partition , mbr and first track , and in 10 seconds BIBM can fix it?

 

Yes, that quickly.

 

this with the undelete feature ?
page 40 bare metal manual there are only very few information

 

It was just a demonstration that a MBR backup isn't essential for recovery when the MBR has been deleted. You don't necessarily need your own MBR to boot your own OS. BIBM can write a standard WinXP or a standard Win7 MBR and these will work fine. Then you can undelete the partitions by finding the partition boot sectors. BIBM does this easily.

 

even if the hard disk is 2GB? can't believe it's so fast


when bibm could fail to revover lost partition?
but mbr doesn't contain partition table, without them ,BIBM can't fix ,can it?

 

Remember, I deleted the MBR so I had no partition table. And 10 seconds later everything was back to normal.

Do you have an old test computer to try this? Or you could do it with a spare HD in your current computer.

 

hi
i tried on a spare hard disk with 4 partitions , i used another partition software to delele these 4 partitions , and create 2 new

after i used BIBM to recovery ,it wasn't fast and it did not revocery my 4 partition

 

Once you created new partitions you probably overwrote partition boot sectors. Nothing will help after the boot sectors are gone.

 

outside a backup of the data with the partitions
now you got why i wanted to backup mbr and partition table

 

Unfortunately, if you have overwritten the partition boot sector then a MBR backup will not help. You will be able to recreate the partition but you won't be able to access the data.

 

Brian, I think we would all like to know what you do then - after all that is equivalent to having a total HDD failure is it not? Surely, after you buy another HDD and plug it in, you can still recover your OS from an IFW image - without any special actions ?

 

gbhall,

What do I do when my HD fails? I restore my OS images to a new HD, create a data partition on the new HD and copy my backed up data into that partition. Just like most of us do. Nothing complex. Just standard stuff. Regarding restoring the First Track to the new HD. Yes I would but in most cases it doesn't matter if you forget to do this. But I guess it depends on your imaging app. Whether it writes bootstrap code or not.

Regarding where on the new HD to restore the images? It doesn't matter. Just restore them anywhere.

The above applies to a MBR system. With a UEFI system you would have to restore the special partitions before you started restoring the OS partition. Having an Entire Drive image created just after the computer was built would make restoring the special partitions easy.

I can't think of a scenario where I'd restore a MBR backup in real life. I play with them in my test computer but that's all.