Introducing AX64 Time Machine - hybrid imaging/snapshot software

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Isso, Jan 18, 2013.

  1. bgoodman4

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    Understood,,,,,,,once you get AX64 running you will find that it is much faster than any other imaging program you have used. This however is for restores from within Windows, restores from recovery media will take about the same amount of time as most other imaging programs.

    BTW, I have found it to be very reliable and very convenient and with new functions added in upcoming versions it will no doubt become more so.

    If you are trialling the program and have an external drive available perhaps it would make sense to use this for the trial and then decide if something more permanent is in order. At least this way you will be able to use the program to determine if you like it or not.
     
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  2. mata7

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    AX64 is the best backup software i ever use, is fast reliable easy, simple the best, i recommend to all my friend and family
     
  3. Peter2150

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    Couple of things. First even my new machine is Win 7 x64. I have nothing with Win 8

    I tried the Recovery Disk from the XP machine on the new Win 7 machine. Blue screened because of bios incompatibility. No surprise as even my older Shadow Protect recovery disk won't boot on it because of the bios. I also tried it on my Win 7 VM, where the SP recovery disk did work, and the XP based on also blue screened.

    So XP based disk doesn't work.

    I am probably not going to fool with the boot loader software. I have 4 machines, and all of them work with Recovery based CD's. I don't even now if the boot menu software will run on the new machine. I am finding this EUFI based bios is a very different creature.

    Just not inclined to fix something that isn't broke. I know it might be faster, but that isn't that important.

    Pete
     
  4. twl845

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    LOL, I see that's what you meant, but you said "new major versions will require a new license". :D
     
  5. MarcP

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    And that's true.
     
  6. twl845

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    No, you buy the software and get your license. Then according to Isso, when a major version comes out like V2, you download it to your already licensed AX64 and pay for it. You don't need a new license.
     
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  7. MarcP

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    V2 is a major upgrade. Those are not free. You'll need to buy a new license.
     
  8. twl845

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    I said that when you download the major upgrade of V2, you will pay for it. You already have your life time license as I mentioned in my post #4032 which I copied and pasted from the AX64 web site. :)
     
  9. MarcP

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    You really got it twisted. The lifetime license is only for the version you purchased.
     
  10. twl845

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    Will I get a new registration key when I download the new version, or will I retain the original key?:)
     
  11. MarcP

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    Ask Isso. This is far from a new scheme. HDS explains it the same way for RoolbackRX. You'll most probably need a new serial number hence a new license.
     
  12. MarcP

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    Read Isso's post here.

    For license: it's lifetime for the major version that you've bought.
     
  13. bgoodman4

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    Agreed, you can use the version the license is for as long as you like (lifetime) but in order to get a new major version cash must change hands.

    You may be able to use the same license number (or perhaps a new one will be issued) but the details associated with the license will change to include the new version. Which makes it a new license agreement.

    It is unclear at this time if upgrading to a new version will enable you to continue using the older version on a different PC for your lifetime. Some software publishers will not permit this but it is difficult for them to prevent. Some, like Horizon Data Systems, use a phone home system specifically to prevent this sort of thing but since Isso does not use a phone home system, I suspect there is little he could do to prevent it.

    EDIT: think of it this way twl845, if you simply download the new version and plug in your existing license number/key without paying for the new version it will not work. I expect a new key will be needed or Isso could not control who was upgrading and who was trying to get the new version for free.
     
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  14. twl845

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    Well, V2 is coming soon so we'll know for sure then. I have found that apps keep your key somewhere on your computer so when you upgrade they know you're not a new install, and your download just goes through after you pay. That and where it says that you have a life time license on the AX64 web site tells me you don't get a new one every time you do a major upgrade. :)
     
  15. MarcP

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    Read the post from Isso I linked to. His words: For license: it's lifetime for the major version that you've bought.
     
  16. bgoodman4

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    But how can Isso control this. Somehow there must be a way for him to control what will function on your PC and what will not. If the key on your PC is only for version 1 and any minor upgrades to 1 when you download version 2 the old key will be not be able to know if you have paid to activate the software. One possibility is that you can download the new version as a trial and then when you pay for it you would download a 2nd version of the program that the existing key will recognize being able to be activated. That is the trial version will be blocked from activation and the 2nd one will not be.

    We have gotten into a discussion of semantics here. It does not matter if the license is modified or not, if a new key is required or not, or if an entirely new license is required or not, the bottom line is the new version is not free.
     
  17. twl845

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    OK I see how it works now, seeing Isso's post thanks to Markp. BG just FWIW, you keep talking about trying to not pay, and I mentioned a few times that you download and pay. Again, talking about the word "lifetime", as it is used here it's misleading.
    Thanks for hashing this out with me guys, I appreciate you taking the time to help me understand.
     
  18. bgoodman4

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    Yes, I understand the confusion. Sometimes a lifetime license is for all new releases and I have paid for these for some of the programs I use (XYplorer for example) and I paid more for this license at the time when compared to how much was being asked for for the current version and its minor upgrades.

    Lifetime does imply for life but Isso was clear in his post that its lifetime for the current version and minor upgrades. This license (the current version licence) only impacts the next major version in terms of the license holders ability to get the new major version at a discount of some sort.
     
  19. Baldrick

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    IMHO...not really as the word 'lifetime' was clearly used in the context of the major version purchased ONLY.

    And I am sure that Isso has a scheme to make sure that it is just so...;)
     
  20. twl845

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    Hi Baldrick, Sorry I should have said it was misleading to me. I only read the passage on the web site as follows: "The purchased software license is valid for life, there is no annual fee to pay. Customers who purchase the license are entitled to free minor upgrades. Major software upgrades (i.e. from version 1.x to 2.x) will be available to existing customers at a discount." It only says you will have to buy new major upgrades, and having said the license is valid for life, it doesn't mention that the lifetime license will have to be renewed when you upgrade. But now I see that according to BG and Markp there will be a new license upon payment. Not a problem. I just read it wrong. Arrgh! :p
     
  21. Baldrick

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    Hi twl

    No probs whatsoever...and certainly no need to apologise. Glad that it has been clarified for you. :D
     
  22. Baldrick

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    Hi All

    I have an interesting 'petit' problem. Hot & cold restores have basically been working well/without issues...until this last week, when in most cases the cold restores hang, at varying degrees of completion displayed; can be 1%, 27%, 48% and I have even had 75%...but no completion in those circumstances, despite being patient and giving AXTM time.

    I know that there are others who have mentioned a similar problem...but I am not sure if that would be in the same circumstances, i.e., everything has been fine since installing the current build...and then for some reason the issue has started.

    Anyone have any ides? Am going to collect logs and log a ticket with Support...but thought I would ask the question of the learned bretheren. :D

    Regards, Balders
     
  23. Acadia

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    People, people, people, someone PLEASE correct me if I am wrong. A lifetime license ALWAYS means, at a minimum, the version that you currently have in hand will always work forever. No more upgrades to a new version perhaps, depending upon the company, but the old version will always work (Hello, Returnil, are you listening to this?)

    I have had many software programs that worked forever but need $ for continued upgrades, no problem as long as I loved these programs. Some, a few, offered lifetime upgrades forever without any more $ (enter Sandboxie, :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: ).

    Anyway, as I am interpreting all of the relevant posts, AXTM will honor your license for version 1 forever, IT WILL NEVER STOP WORKING (once again, Returnil, are you listening to this?). But for upgrades you will be given a discount as with many other excellent programs that I have used in the past. (Isso, if I am not quite right about this money topic then please correct, thanks).

    Acadia
     
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  24. reldel

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    Are you using Windows 8? If so, I have seen this happen. Automatic maintenance may have triggered and stopped the restore.
     
  25. Peter2150

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    I"ve experienced a similiar thing. But I noticed as I've been installing software on the new machine. One of the time I had some trouble was when my baseline was 10gb, the 2nd incr was 8gb, 3rd was 300mb, and 4th was 8gb. Those snapshots resulted in slow image and restores, and some flakyness on the restores.

    Now that I am essentially done, I have a 24gb baseline and small incrementals, things have settled down.

    One thing encouraging though, a recover cd restore has never failed.

    Pete
     
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