NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secret files reveal

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  1. Mman79

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  2. Justintime123

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    "Facebook's outmoded web crypto opens door to NSA spying." And then the subtitle was: "It's relatively easy for the National Security Agency's spooks to break outdated web encryption after vacuuming up data from fiber taps, cryptographers say. But Facebook is still using it."

    https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-411.htm
     
  3. ance

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    Goodbye Google Chrome! :thumb:
     
  4. m00nbl00d

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    Don't forget any other web browser that may be using services such as Google's Safebrowsing, for example. Firefox, and most likely any derivative would be the first "suspects" to take into account. -edit- Of course, this also includes any Chromium derivative that may use Safebrowsing.
     
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  5. blacknight

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    Definitely. Today NSA and the USA government tell us and claim that the security requirements need PRISM, tomorrow someone could claim that security requirements need that some ideas about some religion, cultures, people, social or economic situations objectively encourage the terrorism and his proselytism, and are a risk for the national security, so it's better that these ideas and their debate are deleted from mails, e-mails, internet, phone and smartphone conversations...
     
  6. 0strodamus

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    Can't this be disabled in Firefox by setting "browser.safebrowsing.enabled" and "browser.safebrowsing.remoteLookups" to false?
     
  7. m00nbl00d

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    I think it is still possible. I just wanted to make a call of attention, that just because people move away from Google Chrome, they will still be using their servers, if they at least use such web browsers that connect to Safebrowsing. :)

    The same way, it can be disabled in Chromium/other. But, in the case of Chromium, I actually block all connections to Google, and simply because I always see a connection going to ssl\.gstatic\.com. Not sure if it's because I got extensions installed, though. But, I don't think that's where the extensions connect to update. (The domain where the extensions update is :-https://clients2.google.com/service/update2/crx. Just note sure if the other is also related to extensions updating)
     
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    I don't see why it would be extremely unwise.
    Leaving aside 'private clouds' and the fact that the NSA will snoop on European clouds with vigor also, European clouds will fall under European law.
    Laws for which EU politicians can be held accountable.
    95% of 400 million Europeans are now relying on cross-atlantic political 'never-private data' decisions they don't have any influence on, none whatsoever. That's ridiculous.

    We should be able to rely on our own checks&balances system, however faulty.
    (And if that results in a similar EU market for cloud data providers (like Amazon, Dropbox, Google etc) and the accompanying (cloud-)espionage private contractors (like BoozAllenHamilton), offering private services for government espionage -while vehemently lobbying for more cloud-snooping of course-, so be it).
     
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    That sounds good. I've had these 2 options set for a long time now and you scared me that it might not be enough. :)
     
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    The difference being that when it involves US citizens and violating the document that they took an oath to defend *above all*, any one who violates either, is a ~self edited, IMO. Nobody takes an oath to support and defend a sitting president, or general alexander. Also, Silent Circle is run by former SEALS, so they too can realize over-reach when they see it. 'No Easy Day' was written because the administration was running their yap and violating the so-called 'secrecy' that they give lip service to.

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    Snowden Interview: NSA 'In Bed Together with the Germans'

    http://www.spiegel.de/international...of-aiding-nsa-in-spying-efforts-a-909847.html
     
  12. ZeroDay

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    Re: Snowden Interview: NSA 'In Bed Together with the Germans'

    Thanks for the share.
     
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    Re: Snowden Interview: NSA 'In Bed Together with the Germans'

    It seems to me a lot of folks are taking everything this guy says as gospel truth. Looking at his history and much of the news I have read, a lot of the stuff being alleged is not backed up with anything but his word and speculation fueled by fear.
     
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    Hi

    Again this kind of program is not a surprise as it is expected since years, as showed by the Spyworld map https://www.wikileaks.org/spyfiles/map/
    And operators involved in mass surveillance are also known http://buggedplanet.info/index.php?title=Main_Page

    The Prism similar programs already exists in some countries, but in a low cost way, as it is the case in France
    http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/04/312290/french-govt-spies-on-citizens-report/
    http://translate.google.fr/translat...sur-le-big-brother-francais_3441973_3224.html

    Seriously, law enforcement mass surveillance is less privacy invasive than social networks like Facebook.
    The data catched by the NSA or the DGSE are not public, and still belong to us as they can not be exploited by every internet user.
    But private data collected by Cloud services and social networks do not belong to us anymore...
    Geopolitical and ethical considerations are endless debate that could not be circumscribed in this board and always finish by a dead end.

    Rgds
     
  15. Nebulus

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    kareldjag, I have the option not to use Facebook or other cloud service, but there is no way to opt-out of government surveillance.
     
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    Re: Snowden Interview: NSA 'In Bed Together with the Germans'

    The American Intelligence Community are taking what this guy is revealing very seriously.
     
  17. blacknight

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    Disagree. it's a point of view pragmatic and short-sighted. The ethical and juridical considerations are the way to choose and to defend the kind of society and of democracy where we want to live.
     
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    Well it's a good thing that quite a number of members on here, & other forums, have been taking what we learned etc about such things years ago, Seriously.

    LOTS of people used to laugh & say it was All a conspiracy theory & we shouldn't be concerned.

    Guess who's laighing now :D
     
  19. Nebulus

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    Unfortunately, I think that nobody is laughing now, no matter how right they were in the past... :(
     
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    http://www.spiegel.de/international...an-intelligence-in-bed-with-nsa-a-909904.html
     
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/us/in-secret-court-vastly-broadens-powers-of-nsa.html
     
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    Google recently highlighted Franz Kafka's birthday, using imagery from Metamorphosis. The Trial would have been far more timely ;)
     
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    http://phys.org/news/2013-07-brazil-nsa-spying.html
     
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