Avast! 8 Beta?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Brandonn2010, Oct 18, 2012.

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  1. WSFuser

    WSFuser Registered Member

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    ^ Quick, someone sing that song and put it on YouTube! :p

    Anyways I'm trying avast v8 and I am liking it very much. Its running very light. I do prefer a darker color for the main interface though.
     
  2. Dwarden

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    first find good singer to sing it and musician to play the music !

    btw. RTM version feels quite light on system, seems like some of the debug overhead is gone
     
  3. McLovin

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    I realise that it is a Beta and no where did I say that it's perfect. I also realise that they can improve. It was allowed to run because there was a bug in the program and I realise that. All my testing is done by sitting on the fence. I don't go towards a product if I just like them, I do all of them on a fair bases.
     
  4. avman1995

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    Your and some people like Biozfear,guest on MT comments and here clearly show that again just like you posted on MT forums without even looking around..So again there are improvements and you just dont seem to read:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=8
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=9

    If you knew its a beta and there can be bugs you wouldnt have posted this on MT:
    "Agreed. Reason being as the the test I did, it said that a file was blocked yet it still ran the program anyway."

    And there is more to come...Again pointless assumption by Biozfear:
    And how the above can always come true?? :doubt: o_O

    v8 was stable since start and will continue to be. MT likes to smack at AV's when AV's go downhill and again Biozfear calls avast forums troll:
    http://malwaretips.com/Thread-Can-anyone-respond-to-this-on-avast-forums?page=2

    LOL! have you guys even touched avast forum or even clearly tested avast v8?? I doubt that...Anyways not to go OT.

    anyway this has been discussed:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=334349&page=19

    Sorry no fanboys here but its just makes some people angry like me and spywar when someone makes pointless assumptions and makes a notion of "no improvements" when there are improvements.. :mad:

    Clearly,none your MT members who call themselves testers havent even tested avast and dont even know the prepective of av testing.The reason I got banned from MT was not because I was a fanboy [Seriously,why should I be a fanboy] it was because I was opposing some people's negative/disregard and pointless assumptions.One person comes up with a misguided assumption and the rest follow. This is what puppets do.

    I understand everyone has a personal opinion but making pointless assumptions is useless and nonsense.
     
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  5. RejZoR

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    Leave those clueless noobs alone and live on. After reading few of their comments i can see they are either galactically ignorant or just plain stupid so don't even bother with them. If they can't see the massive improvements done to avast! and to rpedict that there WILL be problems after global public release, then they are clearly blind.

    We know that avast! wasn't bad before, but it missed few things here and there. But now, that gap is pretty much entirely closed by the Evo-Gen and Auto Sandbox. So apart from few badly done tests on Youtube you can already see great results there and i'm expecting this trend to continue on professional tests like AV-Test, AV-C and VB100%, mostly with focus where they perform real-world tests (and not just on-demand where AV's pretty much only use signatures/static heuristics).

    As for the problems, seriously, a program with almost 200 million users and some ppl say it with sort of smug sentences like no other program than avast! ever had such problems after release. :rolleyes: Beta was tested by like 30.000 users per avast!'s statistics out of which only a small fraction actually bothered to report problems and took a regular part in testing it properly. The rest were mostly casual testers for the Youtube or users just lurking around to see how it looks and feels. So if i take it very optimistically, 100 ppl were actively testing it and reporting issues. Thats 100 potentially different system configurations. Out of these 100, they resolved all the known issues that were reported during beta.

    Now, release such program to an user base of like 180 million different configurations. You have to be a monumentally ignorant moron to think any program will be released without a single issue in such scenario. It's just not possible even from a statistical perspective. So naturally, just like me, avast! team and the rest of regular beta testers are expecting problems which may not be strictly caused by avast! itself but by the "collision" of avast! with millions of different PC configurations where something will for sure go wrong.
    We can all be wrong with safety predictions and there won't be any problems at all (hurray in that case), but you just can't assume that when there are so many unknown variables that may affect avast! operation.

    But do know that they always take BSOD's with highest priority, that avast! v8 now comes with automatic crash reporting system that will in most cases submit the crash report to avast! team automatically and that for the first few days or even weeks they'll be closely monitoring the reported problems and will be preparing a post-release update that will address those problems (if there will be any). It has been this way for several releases now and so far it worked perfectly fine. There will be raging users just like always and just like it happens with any program where certain users have problems but for the rest of ppl who understand it, there won't be any problems.
     
  6. avman1995

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    well said rejzor :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

    This should shut the mad mouth of guest,Mclovin and biozfear who call themselves testers or whatever they are..they are just noobs:
    http://malwaretips.com/Thread-Can-anyone-respond-to-this-on-avast-forums?page=2

    And yes this new v8 and somethings that are upcoming will change the opinions of many people and will also attract new users

    LOL! dont forget Mcafee bugs caused internet shutdown for their users and avira was a real brick for some PC's at one point...so now they know we arent fanboys and possibly Biozfear can try and reply to us here on this topic rather than bitching about avast forums and avast on their Malwaresh*ts forums.I dont even know why Malwaretips forum mods allow these guys to continously troll and show negative attitude against a AV without even looking around and now they must realize that they would get nothing better from showing negative attitude but staining their own forum reputation.My opinion would be a BAN on these igorant morons..

    now lets get back on topic ;)
     
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  7. anon

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    Yep, for writers & actors only...... poets are not included.
     
  8. J_L

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    Oh, the RTM is out. Stable enough for me, going to upgrade.
     
  9. McLovin

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    You want to trust those companies with the tests? All the AV companies do is throw money at them just to be at the top.

    A good example would be:
    http://i.imgur.com/XC5HA.gif

    Out of all the testing I would rather see results from people off YouTube that do it in their spare time, like me, Languy, MalwareDoctor, ThePCSecurity and so on, not from those professional companies that just want the money.

    But I guess we are entitled to our own opinion. :rolleyes:
     
  10. avman1995

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    OK so now you turn the reverse way round...yes you are at the liberty of personal opinion but making assumptions [Which in a way is ridiculously wrote in a enforced manner] is something that is not a matter of personal opinion but a matter of ignorance.Now;if you have stopped defending malwaresh*ts forum we can get back to topic.

    LOL! you talk about languy lol! look around some posts on wilders here you will know who languy is and what people around here talk about him.Languy himself is COMODO forum Mod and what else we can say :rolleyes:

    Talking about malwaredoctor Hmm...check a few pages back on this topic and you will see what opinion we had on his avast test.

    And speaking about your un-proved AV-C statements,stop reminding me about mellih..None of us here have any proof of what AV-c does in the backround I have already have most of my AV-C queries un-answered so even I cant say anything...I have a mixed opinon on AV-c IMHO.Go back to your malwaretips [or i say malwaresh*ts] if you dont have anything in positive to discuss about avast here.You guys have done nothing better than staining the reputation of MT.I remember this guy got banned on malwareup..

    Again nonsense post:
    http://malwaretips.com/Thread-Can-anyone-respond-to-this-on-avast-forums?page=3

    slight improvement...lol! he hasnt even seen reviews on avast v8 beta.I guess that;s enough and yet shamelessly you guys still continue to bash..dont you understand that software updater isnt useless as it keeps software patched thus reducing risk of infection and more-ever Ad-block is also useful and none according to me is useless.So,do me a favour,test it in reality for yourself look at this thread and some other YT reviews and then come here to enforce your opinions or make nonsense predictions and also what are the core issues biozfear talks about?? care to explain some? I havent seen anything core right now with avast v8.

    Rejzor said it:
    Yes,we do respect opinions but we dont tolerate enforced predictions or clueless "buggy software" notion..I hope this reply will stop this MT OT posts here.I hope that other MT members [eg:guest,Biozfear] are reading this topic and my only hope is that they tend to learn something than being a ignorant rant.
     
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  11. Tyrizian

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    The Software Updater in 8.0 works really, really good.

    I ended up turning off automatic updates from Adobe Flash and Mozilla Firefox, since the new avast! keeps track of all this.
    Seems silly having the Adobe updater and Mozilla's maintenance service running all the time, especially if avast! can take care of all the updates for me.

    The Ad Blocker seems to work really good as well.
    I think it's tweaked and built better than Adblock Plus (my opinion), It seems to take up less of my browser's resources as well.

    I also put the newest version to the test and it seems to detect thing's a lot better than it ever has.

    The interface is also very simple and in my opinion more cleaned up.

    It's also very pleasing to see no more "in your face" advertising.

    and as always....

    It runs very, very light

    Overall, I think avast! has matured quite well, This is by far the best avast!...I think

    Definitely a keeper :thumb:
     
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  12. RejZoR

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    So, by his words, if a company makes a cloud enhancement that catches 100% of all malware but he can't see the change in the GUI, then the program hasn't improved at all. LMAO AHAHAHAHAHA. And thats exactly whats going on here. He won't acknowledge Evo-Gen and new enhanced Auto Sandbox because he can't see any difference in the GUI. Well, a wake up call for you guest, have you ever heard of a term "under the hood enhancements"? They are called this way because you can't see them visually but that doesn't mean they aren't there. And trust me, Evo-gen and Auto Sandbox wasn't there before February. I'll know it because i've been monitoring this tech for years and months...
     
  13. avman1995

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    I agree with that reaction :D Now I can surely say MT is full of people who call themselves testers but in reality they dont know what they are talking about..C'mon I am 100% sure none of these guys have even tested or read a avast YT review becuase if he would have he would have known this is a local database feature.Evo-Gens are _definitions_ (not cloud queries) and are delivered to Avast using the streaming update technology (pushed out roughly every 10 minutes) - thus covering even the cases where Internet connection is unavailable (e.g. system boot).

    Whereas,rejzor and I and few others have been testing avast v8 and evo-gen catches almost anything you throw at it..you will see that if you start reading this topic from page 9.
     
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  14. RejZoR

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    Actually i've noticed that in many cases, not just avast!. The so called testing experts are explaining stuff on Youtube channels and they often state wrong things or they explain them wrong or they just click around like headless chickens not knowing what they are really doing. This clearly shows that large majority of them don't even know or understand the basics on how security software works in general. And i' not being avast! centered here, i've seen similar big mistakes in Comodo tests, in Ad-aware tests, AVG tests, in BitDefender tests etc etc etc.
     
  15. Smiggy

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    Let's not forgoet however that some people test to the limit of their capability.
    In the grand scale of things companies want that, given that the mass majority of their users will be simply single clickers and/or home users/settings ignorers.

    Not all beta testers are software engineers/security analysts/gurus, seeing as I'm assuming those sort of people designed/implimented the software in the first place.

    I sometimes wonder how come some of the most prevelent 'armchair' experts on the net dont happen to be in the industry, weird that?

    :rolleyes:
     
  16. J_L

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    Found out Avast WebRep doesn't work in Internet Explorer 10 with Enhanced Protected Mode on. Also, it will automatically disable yourself if you have Adblock Plus installed in Chrome.

    Script Shield works fine with Chrome now, which is great. Is there a point of using Ad Blocker if I subscribed to TPL's?
     
  17. vlk

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    Yes, this is by design.

    Glad to hear that.

    You will have to decide for yourself which one is more effective/convenient.

    Thanks
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