Malware Bytes is valuable.

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Bodhitree, Jan 17, 2013.

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  1. Bodhitree

    Bodhitree Registered Member

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    I quit using MBAM-Pro last year, mostly because it slowed down 'everything' on my fast machines.

    I was running some threat testing here on a machine, and picked up a 0-Day malware during the testing that blew through Bullguard. Curious, I snapshotted back and installed BitDefender, same result. I repeated this process through 3-4 additional AVs (Trend, ESET, etc), even Trustport which supposedly has several engines. Nothing. I got a hunch, installed MBAM and BOOM immediately detected, and removed. Very impressive, as I had essentially written off MBAM. I uploaded the new threat to Jotti/VT/Virscan, and only 2 engines detected it, and that was pure heuristics based on the packer alone.

    My conclusion, based on this silly but very very relevant threat is - MBAM has a place in a security setup. I reinstalled MBAM-Pro and found it actually not slowing things down like it did before with the latest version, wondering if they made speed tweaks recently? If it gets slow, it has to go, but so far I don't see any speed difference I would complain about.
     
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  2. twl845

    twl845 Registered Member

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    MBAM PRO real time rules.:cool:
     
  3. jo3blac1

    jo3blac1 Registered Member

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    Replaced my realtime AV with NS and MBAM Pro.
     
  4. JerryM

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    I have a friend who had a very similar intrusion. Norton did not detect so could not remove it. In addition, he could not get on the internet and download any help.

    I put MBAM on a CD, installed it on his machine and a Quick Scan found and removed the malware.

    MBAM is a necessity, and any AV that will not run with MBAM real time get the axe.

    Jerry
     
  5. luciddream

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    You say you came across this baddie while "testing" though, right? What are the odds that you'd be compromised by such a thing without doing it to yourself intentionally? How many different hardening tweaks, apps, etc... would you have to disable? Then how many lapses in judgement would you have to make?

    And then, do those odds make it worth the slowdown of real-time scanning on your machine?

    This is not to even mention the fact that an image/reboot in shadow mode or whatnot would render it all moot as well.

    That really is how I weigh things. For me the odds are close to absolute 0, mainly due to the fact I don't rummage around random/shady sites, and have NoScript always on. The footprint would have to be non-existent for me to consider it, and I've yet to find any real-time scanner that is even close to that.
     
  6. ams963

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    MBAM Pro is a must in any setup. :cool: :thumb:
     
  7. luciddream

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    I do see that a bunch of people use it, even the types that avoid 3'rd party programs at all costs, or at least whenever possible that used MBAM Pro. So I was thinking maybe there was "something about it" I was oblivious to... some benefit. But when I asked people then they either say they just wanted to support the vendor (this mostly). Or for, if I recall, IP blocking, or something like that.

    It almost had me curious enough to try it for myself to see what I was missing, if anything. "Almost".
     
  8. twl845

    twl845 Registered Member

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    I read a post recently that suggested that MBAM might look into creating an AV app. Does anyone know anything about that? o_O
     
  9. Bodhitree

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    It was actually just a game, or a game launcher that contained the trojan, so it might be pretty common for people to get it to be honest, especially on machines where kids also have access. So these threats aren't really all that odd to come across.

    On my kids machines, even with RollbackRX available to 'undue' all damage, MBAM is going on there again.. So what if they have a 0.033 increase in load times on applications or something. I just consider it another layer for them.
     
  10. The Seeker

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    MBAM PRO's lifetime license makes it all the sweeter.
     
  11. Page42

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    MBAM earned your respect by catching what other tools missed, and isn't that the best way to impress? :cool:
     
  12. SweX

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    But that's what it's designed/supposed to do ;)

    Pick stuff up from the floor that others have dropped :D
     
  13. Mman79

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    I don't mind a subtle slowness for the protection it gives. The only effect I see is much longer shutdown times on my system. In daily use though, I don't even know it's there really. It's well worth the 25 bucks.
     
  14. andyman35

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    I've stopped concerning myself nowadays just how MBAM manages to work so well,it just does ;)
     
  15. biscuits

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    I thought you used mbam before as an on-demand scanner along with hmp.
     
  16. jo3blac1

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    Might get another one for my family. Wish the had a 3 pack deal.
     
  17. luciddream

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    I do still use the free version. I was talking about Pro. Although I've never had it find an infection, I've had it detect some Group Policy tweaks I made as potential hijacks. And that to me indicates how thorough it is. Nothing else detects that that I've used.
     
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    totally agree with u man.

    MBAM is the mose useless program ever.

    Yes its good at removing viruses from an infected systems. but to someone like me who is using Bitdefender Antivirus MBAM offers nothing more and will never ever get infected with Bitdefender on thanks to its 99.7% detection rate the highest amongst any AV

    So this makes MBAM useless to someone like me who already has a clean system and an updated AV at all times.
     
  19. luciddream

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    LOL, hey now... "I" certainly never said it was "useless". Just considering the merits of using the real-time component and eating the added footprint when weighed against any potential benefit in real world usage.

    If you want to consider "already having a clean system" into the equation, I could argue that EVERY real-time AV is useless to me with the way I have VT Hash Check & Sandboxie set up.
     
  20. safeguy

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    There's this saying: "One man's trash is another man's treasure."
     
  21. The Red Moon

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    I go to the doctor and he gives me a clean bill of health.
    Go to another doctor and he says i have the flu,.....:D
    Thats just a ficticious scenario but it is how i see malwarebytes anti malware.
    Its another valued check up if you like and i always have MBAM installed.
     
  22. The Hammer

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    So are you claiming that BitDefender's forum never has to deal with missed infection claims and support never deals with clients with infected machines?
     
  23. MBAM is good, real good. Well worth the one time fee to buy it.
     
  24. Bodhitree

    Bodhitree Registered Member

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    LOL.. I can point Berry to, lets see.. 10-15 bad circulating trojans he can grab right off the websites that are infecting people with them in normal seeming products - BitDefender won't detect, won't clean, and will essentially destroy your Windows installation if you execute them. Fully updated Bit Defender as well, max settings. However, I can tell you that MBAM actually deals with all of them, therefore MBAM is valuable - very valuable.

    99.7% detection is a pipe dream, it won't happen, and it isn't realistic. If that were the case, NOBODY would get infected with all of these big name AV's, and we know people are infected every second running them. As Hammer says, forums for Bit Defender are 'flooded' with infected cries for help. http://forum.bitdefender.com/index.php?showforum=196

    ~Comment removed. Stay on topic. ~
     
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  25. vojta

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    Viruses? MBAM doesn't remove viruses. Do you know what you are talking about?
     
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