The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Arcanez

    Arcanez Registered Member

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    Yes, still working as intended here. But there are a few things I noticed about the Memory buffer mode. When the memory size that you assigned for memory buffer mode is almost reached the Computer Performance Comes to a crawl somehow. Then when the memory buffer is full and SD continues to write changes to the disk the Performance becomes fast as usual. Also yesterday I used the memory buffer mode and shut down my Computer. Then today I turned on my Computer and changes from yesterday are still in RAM because my Computer seems to have enough power to Keep changes that are stored in RAM.
     
  2. puff-m-d

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    I do not know if anyone has mentioned it but they are having a 35 % off sale now on their website for SP... Great deal - 22.75 US $...
     
  3. merisi

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    I hadn't realised that changes in RAM could be sustained in shutdown. I always thought that it disappeared when switched off, saying that you might have 64 gb of RAM lol. I must admit I haven't tried the memory buffer mode and just leave it as 0. Still it's quite interesting what you're finding.

    I've also noticed that Softpedia among other websites are offering direct downloads of SD 1.2 on their websites which originate from the SD website and I'd have thought if there was anything suspicious going on, that they or others would have found it. I'm still coming to terms with the idea that you won't always know if you have malware on your computer. I must admit I think SD is an amazing program and going into Shadow Mode then browsing with Sandboxie makes me feel so much more secure.
     
  4. Crane_Mann

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    I have not had the problem you seem to have. None of the changes during SD mode are retained when I reboot. Which is the goal I believe. I have noticed that as time goes on the ram used gets larger and larger. I reboot before it spills over on the hd though. Usually takes a couple of days though.

    Maybe I misunderstand your problem. Perhaps you could explain it differently.

    Are you saying your ram drive isn't being deleted at shutdown? How would you know? When you reboot, SD's ram starts out very low and builds up. I guess I don't understand, can you explain the steps you took so I can follow what you found?
     
  5. BlueZannetti

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    They can't. Not with DRAM. Not with a genuine shutdown (vs. suspend/sleep/hibernate).
     
  6. merisi

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    Thanks for the clarification. I was just wondering that if I leave the mb of RAM used as write cache as the default of 0 and enter Shadow Mode, what happens? Am I inside my memory or writing to my HD?
     
  7. Arcanez

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    Well just yesterday before I shutdown my Computer I took a look at the SD Interface and 1GB out of 3072MB Memory buffer was used. Today when I started my Computer I went to the Interface immediately and 1GB out of 3072MB was used already. Seems like it hadn't been deleted.

    Also like I said I noticed that the Computer Performance becomes worse the more is stored in the Memory buffer. For me when the Memory Cache is almost full the Computer Performance Comes to a crawl. As soon as SD continues to write to the disk the Performance becomes normal.

    I have 8GB ram and I tested with 3-4GB of Memory buffer.

    EDIT: Regarding the Memory buffer Thing where things aren't deleted on shutdown: I use Windows 8 and it has a Feature that's called QuickStart, so whenever you shutdown your Computer certain things are stored and kept in RAM and you basically continue the session whenever you start your Computer again. So although you hit the "shutdown" button in Windows 8 it's no REAL shutdown actually. You have to turn that Feature off and then things are deleted that were stored in Memory on reboot.
     
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  8. Crane_Mann

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    I get it now, Thanks.
     
  9. jebediah

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    So that guy Tony is for real back?
     
  10. merisi

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    Yes he is. I've emailed him a few times and he's responed to everything I've asked. Softpedia and other websites also have links to SD so it's clear that other websites are satisfied as well. I must admit that parts of this thread make frightening reading but I think it's resolved. You could always email Tony.
     
  11. Crane_Mann

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    Does anyone KNOW how the page.sys works in reguard to SD? I mean, is it handled through SD? The reason I ask is because I have SD's ram set to 4.5g and currently is using abt 2g. However, Task Manager is showing 3.79g. I've had my paging file set to zero everysince I upgraded my ram to 8g years ago. So, I know I have no paging.sys. I am just curious and wondered if anyone knows for sure how that is handled in SD.

    Would I be correct to assume the 1.79g difference would be programs running on the computer? I would have to assume that is correct. Makes sense.
     
  12. t3ster

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    Re: Shadow Defender Exclusions

    The advised exclusion list is as shown above + the following:

    C:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Client
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Security Client
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware

    Are there any other directories that should be excluded?

    I have the following installed:
    - Windows 7 64bit
    - Installed: applications: MS security essentials, Malware Bytes and GoodSync
    - Installed windows components: all the updates until now + .NET 4

    In the near future I might add: Office and PowerIso or WinIso.
     
  13. kupo

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    Re: Shadow Defender Exclusions

    Hello, I've just installed Shadow Defender. Is it normal that it asks for admin credentials when opening the main program or did I made a mess in installation? Thanks.
     
  14. Scoobs72

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    Re: Shadow Defender Exclusions

    It's normal. Or at least, it's normal for me :)
     
  15. kupo

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    Re: Shadow Defender Exclusions

    Thanks for the reply. I know what I'm gonna have for a feature request know for him. :)
     
  16. ArfArf

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    I have installed shadow defender on windows 7 ultimate. The 1st time it is ok but eventually the system takes too long to respond like when you are booting up or shutting down. And when i uninstall shadow defender...it runs fine again...only in win 7 not on xp...what could be the problem?
     
  17. twl845

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    Could you possibly assigned too much RAM to SD?
     
  18. ArfArf

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    I dont know...how to check how much ram you are allocating to SD?
     
  19. VectorFool

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    i am using Shadow Defender on my PC
    i need to add the following files to the exclusion list.
    1)Emsisoft Update(virus definitions) folder
    2)Comodo Firewall Settings
    3)Avira Internet Security 2013 (updates and virus definitions)

    my OS is Windows 7 x64, so i need to know the path to the above folders so i can add them to exlusion, could someone help me out?
     
  20. WSFfan

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    See posts 159 to 162
     
  21. VectorFool

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    Thanks CSKFan :D
    that takes care of the exclusions for Emsisoft AM

    now i need to set exclusions for Avira IS 2013 and Comodo Firewall
    ideas anyone? :)
     
  22. Fuzzfas

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    Avira is probably doable (try putting any Avira's folders). Comodo at least up to a couple of years ago, was storing rules in the registry. Unless this has changed, you can't make exclusions for the registry.
     
  23. twl845

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    Click mode setting and on the mode page type in how much RAM you want to allocate, like 200Mbs if you only have like 1Gb total, or maybe 1Gb if you have plenty of total RAM like 8Gbs total. :)
     
  24. VectorFool

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    Thanks a lot mate :)
    i put the following exclusions in Shadow Defender
    c:\Program Files (x86)\Avira\
    c:\Program Files (x86)\Emsisoft Anti-Malware\
    c:\ProgramData\Avira\
    c:\Users\<User Name>\AppData\Roaming\utorrent\

    now only Comodo Firewall is left :cool:
     
  25. Crane_Mann

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    Not entirely true. There is a work around. It is a bit complicated. I've been testing it for a couple of days. I'll work up details and post it soon.
     
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