Bullguard 2013 is Out!!

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by darts, Sep 20, 2012.

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  1. zfactor

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    testing this out again since i got a lic last time.

    once again im not sure how people say this has little to no impact on the systemo_O im seeing ram usage of well over 200mb total and all im doing is a system scan with it.and browsing is for sure slowed down a lot with it. also the bullguard scan process is using 30+% of the cpu? this is not a slow system and has 8gb ram with a t9900 cpu. in fact just the one process is using upwards of 150+mb of ram by itself. and i can feel it for sure. its even slowing down my typing and everything.

    maybe my install has a issue not sure ill try a fresh install and see what happens.
     
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    Although I despise this product for its horrible tech support. I have never had the issues you mentioned on a clean install. I always install my AVs by reverting back to a point before I have installed any AV to avoid any conflicts.

    It didn't affect browsing and was much lighter than KAV or BIS
     
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    lol i am running kis 2013 right now and WOW.... as far as impact goes. kis 2013 is just over 30mb of ram while at idle with firefox opened with around 12 tabs, no slowdown thats very noticable in browsing and the only time i notice it slowing programs down is the first time they open while its deciding what to do with them. see my thoughts in the kaspersky thread..

    though i 100% agree with you on bitdefender.
     
  4. berryracer

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    Bro it's not only about RAM Usage. Some AVs like KIS use little RAM but try launching a large setup file for example, the Nero 12 Demo which is 300 MB or so in size, and watch how your system will almost freeze while KIS is scanning the setup file.

    Now, try launching that same setup file with BIS or BullGuard and watch how it launches instantly.

    It's all about how the AV scans and its impact on the system usage rather than just RAM usage. Heck, most users nowadays have 2 GB RAM so a 100 or 300 MB of RAM usage isn't gonna hurt. In fact, I prefer to have my AV use more RAM (I have 16 GB) and make use of it rather than be heavy on my system

    what do you think?
     
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    I tried to try it but , it was at the time tese WONDERFUL folks took their site down for Maintenance All I can say is support was poor and I will not touch it if only to try . I am very happy to be rid of this on my system taking up space . The support thing is another issue altogether and I will not go into it . It is surely NOT for everyone
     
  6. zfactor

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    not happening here. the only time things launch slow is on the first launch. after that they launch normally once kaspersky has placed them. and for me things launch FAR slower with bis or bullguard. and im also testing on a 5 year old laptop. same results.
    i know its not about ram usage but honestly i dont see it with bullguard for me its VERY heavy. not as heavy as the actual bitdefender but still very heavy.

    and note im NOT a kaspersky fan... but in this case its a better choice on both systems.
     
  7. hamlet

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    I have BullGuard Internet Security loaded right now on my desktop computer and it has little noticeable impact on my web browsing or general computer use. It looks like it uses a little over 70mb of ram at idle. It does use about 150 while scanning and about 30% of the cpu time. I didn't notice any browsing slowdowns during the scanning. I really have given up understanding how software can behave so differently on different computers. It really points out the need for people to try out software for themselves. Again, my computer is quite snappy with BullGuard loaded.

    I currently have active licenses for four different AV programs: Avast, Bitdefender, BullGuard, and ESET. After recently restoring my computer to its original state, BullGuard is the only one that runs without glitches. Or, I should probably say it is the one that gives me the best feeling of security combined with a smooth running computer. The last few releases of Avast have been a disaster for me, Bitdefender is better than it used to be but still wonky for me, and ESET has been giving me trouble while watiching videos. I think I need to restore another image and start over. In any case, BullGuard is working extremely well for me. I wish they would beef up the reporting a bit but I do like the straightforward and simple nature of the program.

    I have not had occasion to use their support, but it seems to have all of the appropriate pieces in place, including a 24/7 live chat. I don't know that their support was offline recently. They did recently take down their backup servers for some hours. I don't think it affected their av software updates or other functionality. I think that whole episode is talked about in detail earlier in this thread. :blink:
     
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    Well to be honest with you all of them are good. It comes down to personal preference. In the past, I hated Bitdefender as it was too buggy but after a recent patch they released, everything is perfect now. I used to have instances where my system would boot in slow motion with BIS, everything would open in slow motion, windows, maximizing/minimizing. Random freezes in MPC-HC. But now everything is perfect as BIS gives me the best balance in terms of performance / security :)
     
  9. zfactor

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    i actually really like bitdefender if they would let you install it without all the added extra "junk" i might actually use it. but there is no way of doing a real custom install and it includes way to much extra stuff i dont want. kaspersky has some also but it doesnt add things everywhere like bitdefender did.
     
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    like what for example? I never noticed anything intrusive?
     
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    it adds its stuff to the recycle bin for example among tons of other stuff. i hate programs that do that. if i cant remove those kinds of things i dont use them i dont want programs touching things like that.. beside the bars it adds to which i can not fully remove i can just turn off etc..the recylce bin is just one example... i dont use kaspersky but i have a lot of clients that do. i prefer programs like eset, esa and avira etc that dont add anything or that i can uncheck stuff during the installer.
     
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    I get your point now. To be honest with you. I never even noticed that recyle bin thingie until you told me because I just usually use CCleaner to clear my recycle bin :)
     
  13. Baedric

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    I realize that you had problems with Bullguard tech support, but my experiences with them have always been top notch. I would compare Bullguard Support to Webroot support, which is quite good these days and probably the best I have ever encountered from a AV vendor.
     
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    I agree, BullGuard support is top-notch and it hasn't changed at all in the past few years; so +1 for consistency as well :)
     
  15. tomdy2k

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    Nah..your a beginner at overkill....I have Norton,Bullguard, Vipre, Kaspersky,and now bit Defender..:argh:
     
  16. Bodhitree

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    I ran a snapshot, and installed Bullguard IS 2013 Pro. My test was, I wanted to 'destroy' my machine with BG installed, or at least - try. Usually I can blow up an AV in a few minutes. So after installation, I started running about 50 Malware links through BG.. I was stunned.. At least 90% of the malware domains/links/sites were blocked outright. Quite remarkable. Of the ones not blocked, BG wouldn't allow any of the trojans to infect. So I started hitting cracks, keygens, and porn sites for 0-Day threats. Didn't take long, I started downloading dozens of them, 90%+ were blocked outright by the HTTP/HTTPS filter, domain blocked generally.

    I managed to get a few downloaded, and ran them. ALL of them were caught outright. I verified this with several scans including HitmanPro which came up 100% clear. Bullguard is a BEAST. Performance wise, I only noticed a 'slight' delay loading a directory with 400-500+ large files in it, otherwise I cannot really find any noticeable performance drop. I am not confident Webroot would have been that efficient, but I want to test it on the same links and files. But I like the fact that Bullguard has a very very aggressive domain filtering system that appears to work quite well.

    Bullguard is impressive, at least with my 'lets try to screw up a PC really badly' sort of tests (which few, if any AV's survive). I might have to pick up a few stacks of licenses of this product.
     
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  17. Bodhitree

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    No luck botching the Bullguard system yet.. Still trying to infect it.

    Generally by this point I give up, and buy the product. But I am persistent.. I am also trying to find major issues with BG2013, so far nothing serious. Only annoyance thus far, I can enable parental controls, but how do I turn them back off? No button for that. Oops! I can't find any major drags on the system, one slow spot as noted above with a huge directly.

    Bullguard flagged a magical secret auto-updater for a game I had installed. No idea it had this snooping rubbish, no other AV detects it. It fired off in the middle of the night while I was sleeping and BG nailed it. Might be a FP, but I still don't like random games secretly updating.. Sheesh.

    Lookin' like this could be a good replacement for Webroot when my license expires. Webroot is good, but I think it lacks in some very important ways, and offers 'spotty' protection at times. I've been able to infect a WR system several times using the same methods I am using here. Also, BG has a MUCH superior Web Filter, flagging virtually every malware domain and download, WR generally only catches a few here and there. Only sticking point, if I find any 'drag' on my box, it's a no go. Barring giant directories of course.
     
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    BG uses the Bitdefender engine so its no surprise it's that good
     
  19. Bodhitree

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    According to what I can find, BG actually uses 2 engines, the first one is Bit Defender, the second use has 3 different databases.

    But I do not believe that is where all of the strength is. Since 90% of the Malware failed at the HTTP level before reaching the system, I attribute that to them using Commtouch resources, which is enterprise level security.

    To me, Bit Defender is very buggy, has system freezes, BSODS when gaming, and generally bogs down a system with extras that really aren't needed. I also do not like some of their marketing. All of this seems absent from BG, and I think BG is a superior product at this point.
     
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    The only issue that I had with Bullguard IS 2013, was that the firewall reset itself back to auto create rules for trusted programs even though I'd explicitly turned it off.

    I never allow any firewall to auto create rules on my own computers. I'd been running BG for a few days with everything going pretty well with rule creation. I'd created lots of different rules. One day, I installed a new program and I didn't get a peep out of BG and when I investigated the settings, sure enough it had reset itself to auto create rules and had been that way for a few days...

    Not cool Schmidt..
     
  21. Bodhitree

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    I generally disable SW firewalls.

    I run expensive enterprise level security appliances at home, and don't need any kind of FW for the most part. My security appliance inspects packets for malware as well, I consider it a 'basic' front-line defense, nothing more. But it's certainly lightyears beyond consumer crap routers. This frees up my machines from SW firewalls, which can add overhead.

    But I agree, changing rules isn't good, I'd report this.
     
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    Yes I used to think that same about Bitdefender. Read this thread that I created earlier: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=333556

    Then when I read that they fixed all the bugs via an update. I gave it another chance and it has been nothing but perfect since then.

    Been using it for a month now and for me to stick to 1 suite for such a long time is a very good sign since I am usually not satisfied about any quirk I may experience. This is perfect now, very light, and the best protection overall among any other suite
     
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    I'm trialing BullGuard Antivirus.

    AVG 2013 Paid is lighter and more user friendly.

    Both are 64bit. I'll go with user friendly. :)
     
  24. Bodhitree

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    AVG lacks in serious ways, I won't use it, it's average on detections but lacks a good URL inspection and HIPS. Bit Defender, I am talking like a couple weeks ago it had some serious stability issues. I gave up on it, I have given in multiple chances over the years and won't buy a license for it.

    I picked up a 5PC, 3Year license to Bullguard, I am impressed. Webroot is being dumped until they make some firewall, hips, and URL inspection improvements.
     
  25. Bodhitree

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    Purchased.

    Found a link for 70% off.

    5 licenses for 3 years = $40.. Fantastic.

    My WR licenses run out in 4 months, I will migrate some family over to that, and switch out my home to BG for the next 3 years.
     
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