SAS alternative

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by jo3blac1, Sep 16, 2012.

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  1. treehouse786

    treehouse786 Registered Member

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    apologies, i edited my previous post to clarify my position.
     
  2. The Red Moon

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    No apologies needed lol.
    Yes in that way i would agree with you.To me a portable app would run something like this.:plug in device.usb stick etc.Run the exe from desktop and then when finished remove device and thats it.

    Your definition is very correct.
    The only gripe i had with the supposedly SAS portable was having to keep re-downloading the exe with the latest definitions.I would sooner just install the free version and update within the program.
     
  3. treehouse786

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    glad we agree, sort of lol :thumb:
     
  4. SUPERAntiSpy

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    No, the Free Portable is pre-packaged with the latest definitions so you can install it and run it, but it will install. The Technicians Edition is truly portable.
     
  5. SUPERAntiSpy

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    FYI, for everyone that claims we aren't doing anything to improve the product and for those of you looking for improvements:

    New version 5.6.

    * NEW: Completely re-architected definition database system
    * NEW: Dramatically improved memory usage - up to 90% less compared with the previous version!
    * NEW: Greatly enhanced product load times
    * NEW: Faster scanning, faster malware detection
    * Resolution of long-standing issues affecting certain systems
    * Several critical bug fixes
    * Heuristic/Smart definition updates and improvements
    * Enhancements to the Worldwide Threat Map infrastructure
    * Optimizations to in-product bug reporting system
     
  6. Frank the Perv

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    Will this move you from being one of the worst products in your class?

    Will your product actually test better based on these things -- and then you can stop making stupid excuses for the lame product all the time?

    I hope so.
     
  7. SUPERAntiSpy

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    You have nothing constructive to say and simply make statements that aren't true. We are far from "worst in class". Why don't you share some constructive comments on improving the product? Instead of "make it better" - which means nothing.

    The tests are not an accurate assessment of products - they test an instance in time, that day, those samples, that's it. If those tests are so accurate why do we need more than one product in the industry when many of those companies pass every single test and detect every sample? Many products pass 99% of the tests all the time - then why would anyone use any other product? Why? Because no product can pass every test, and detect every sample every day. PERIOD. You never seem to address any of these facts.

    Are we ignoring the tests? NO. We want to detect everything we can!

    We realize we can't please everyone all the time - that's life and we are ok with that - we continue to release new definitions daily, and update our product nearly every month.
     
  8. Frank the Perv

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    Uh, according to MRG tests linked above, that's exactly what you are -- the worst product in your class. Yes, that was on that test and at that point in time (does that make you happy?).

    More excuses, more misdirection.

    Yes, a test is a point in time.

    Yet some products do well at many points in time. Some are consistently good at many points in time.

    And some, yes SAS, are consistently bad at different points over time.

    The different points in time form something called a "trend."

    Are you going to go back to the stupid… we are downloaded a gazillion times argument? If yes, then admit that MBAM is 184% better than SAS based on # of downloads.

    Contrary to your excuses, whining, and illogic, the critique that a product should detect and protect better is a legitimate constructive criticism.

    It does not matter how many times you release definitions, how many people work on the product, how much money you spent on development, how many times it is downloaded, how many instances that it finds malware, or that there is a free version…. What matters is performance.

    That’s it.

    And you don't seem to get it in a very fundamental way. This is the very nature of Wilders -- talking about the performance of different security products.

    Stop with the stupid excuses and misdirection.

    Stop being a carnival barker and bickering with Wilders members, and malware testers, and other product developers and go make a good product.

    And hava good day.


    ;)
     
  9. mrpink

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    What free portable, technicians edition and all that? Everybody can download portable SAS from this page
    -http://www.superantispyware.com/portablescannertech.html
    am i wrong? I can download it just fine without a license
    And if i copy the updater of the "normal" version to the files of the portable, i don't need to download it every time i wanna scan, i update the definitions just fine
     
  10. treehouse786

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    you are being a bit harsh Frank. i cant comment on the prevention capabilities of SAS but it does have it's uses in the removal field.

    there have been many times (on client machines) where malware will block the execution of certain drivers so you cant run any utility (even when renaming) like mbam, McAfee stinger etc, the 'true' portable version of SAS (paid) must randomize the driver name it uses as it has no problem bypassing blocks placed by malware using the image hijacks section of the registry.

    every product has it's uses.
     
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    90% less memory usage? Now that's what I'm talking about.:D Is there any plan to introduce incremental database updates? Much like MBAM database updates?
     
  12. SUPERAntiSpy

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    We may in the future, but now the definition downloads are much smaller, so that may not be an immediate issue, but it's on the wish list for sure.
     
  13. SUPERAntiSpy

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    Thanks for your nice comments, here is the 5-star review you wondered about:
    http://download.cnet.com/SuperAntiSpyware-Free-Edition/3000-8022_4-10523889.html?tag=mncol;1
     
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    Exactly how small are the downloads? 1mb or less than 500kb?
     
  15. Frank the Perv

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    More stupidity and misdirection.

    As you know Nick, CNET is not a professional software testing organization.

    Let’s take a look at the other products in the Anti-Spyware Software category that have received the same rating:

    Spy Cleaner Gold
    GoGoData Toolbar
    D7
    FreeFixer


    I wonder why most have never heard of this things? Why aren't these being discussed here in Wilders?

    The answer is: Because just like your product – they are lame.

    SAS fits very well in that list of products.

    SAS is every bit as good as your listed 5-star peers in your category at that site.

    Congratulations.:p




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    yes, that was my point
     
  19. The Red Moon

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    The bottom line here is there is a group of you that don't like SUPERAntiSpyware - and I respect that, it's your opinion and your right.

    It's amazing how much time and effort you (bashers) spend trying to bash the product - maybe put that time and effort towards helping out someone in need, providing food for the hungry or some other worthy cause and you will make a big difference in the world today - bashing a product over and over gains you nothing except for some sort of feeling that you thrive on - if everyone were positive, changes happen in the world.

    For the (millions of) users that love, respect and use SUPERAntiSpyware we are here to continue to support you, provide product updates and listen to you for feedback!
     
  21. acr1965

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    Actually, there is a group that do not like the way you have handled issues over the years. So don't try to give SAS all the credit. Because of your behavior you have turned many people off to products you are associated with.
     
  22. SUPERAntiSpy

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    I apologize if I have offended anyone - I just am not one for not letting things be said that aren't true, or letting users be misled if things are quite accurate.

    I have the same passion for SUPERAntiSpyware in that I am always striving to do what's right, improve were we can and do the best for our users.
     
  23. acr1965

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    So we are on the same page, where do you think you have offended people in the past? And which of these past issues are you apologizing for? To not come out with the past issues makes your apology sound very self serving.
     
  24. SUPERAntiSpy

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    I am apologizing that if I offended anyone in not allowing people to bash the product, spread false statements, etc. that my intention is not to offend, it's to provide accurate information for users. If you are offended by that, then maybe spend some time looking at something that you are passionate about and where people have made incorrect statements or assessments and how you would handle the situation - my guess is, you wouldn't sit by and allow things to be entered into fact if they were not the case.

    I won't sit by and let things be put into record and fact that are not true. It's not going to satisfy you, or the other bashers, but I am ok with that in the fact that I am not dishonest, nor providing false information - our opinions simply differ. I come from a place of over 30 years of software development, and I fully understand the reality that not everyone will like a product, it's ok!
     
  25. acr1965

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    So your apology was in fact self serving. I don't think the product turns that many people off. What turns people off is your disposition and attitude when making posts. For instance, you continually and consistently made posts here on Wilders about updating and upgrading SuperAdBlocker but those promises never came to pass. You are not apologizing for that long term scenario which upset many people. Secondly, the '$9.99 today only' ad which popped up on SAS offended many people. Thirdly, any criticism of the product is usually met with a reply from you that the good name of SAS is being attacked. When criticism about SAB is made on your forum the posts are usually deleted.

    The bottom line is that you have offended more people than SAS ever has done. And you continue to do so. You have never admitted to being wrong about issues that many people think are clearly wrong (such as selling an abandoned product for years and continually making promises that upgrades were coming soon). In the end, pretty much whatever you say anymore is taken with a grain of salt. But that's the mess you have managed to put yourself into.
     
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