Toolwiz Time Freeze

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by sg09, Dec 1, 2011.

  1. AlexC

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    I ended up uninstalling Toolwiz and installing Comodo HIPS... (still hoping that a new Shadow Defender version will come out)
     
  2. The Red Moon

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    Not quite certain if a new version of shadow defender is possible until the new owners identity is confirmed.
    Tony the developer is currently missing and his whereabouts is unknown.
    Regards.:thumb:
     
  3. littleturle

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    I am using TTF for about one month. So far, it is very safe and stable.

    BTW, I am using the TTF in the Toolwiz Care, not the standalone version. As I understand, the standalone version is designed for the public pc, the TC version is for personal users.

    :cool:
     
  4. KelvinW4

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    Still too scared to use it.....
     
  5. taleblou

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    Hi:

    I am using it for a few days on a win 7 32bit home premium and so far is great. What I suggest you guys do (although some of you do not agree or do it) is to do a full clean of your pc from junks, registry cleanup and browser junk cleanup, etc. using ccleaner toolwiz care or other cleaning and optimizing tools and then turn TIME FREEZE on and this way you will not get errors or things like that from fragmented files and dead or left over registry , etc.
     
  6. AlexC

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    I had the same problem again, but this time the computer booted normally (i don't have Toolwiz installed anymore).

    So the problem isn't related to Toolwiz. Although if i have Toolwiz installed, the computer won't boot after that error (related to something else).
     
  7. bo elam

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    Alex, whats the error number?

    Bo
     
  8. AlexC

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    I would like to tell but i don't know :/ After the reboot never it happened again (so far).

    The only thing i remember is that it was a error related with winlogon.exe and another error message about certain partition not being recognized.

    And i think that in both occasions win8 asked to install updates after the reboot (i have set to notify but not download neither install).
     
  9. bo elam

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    If the error was yesterday, a few days ago, its probably logged in your Event log. Look in there and you ll find it. Errors that show up in there bother me but I have always found the way to fix them IF something needs to be fixed. If you find what the error is, it should be relatively easy to find the fix.

    Bo
     
  10. AlexC

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    Thanks Bo, i'll take a look when i get home and i'll post back :thumb:
     
  11. taleblou

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    Hi:

    You guys with issues should really clean and optimize your registry and cleanup. I use 6 cleaners and optimizers of which 3 of them I use to fix REGISTRY errors.

    For registry I have found the following to be safe to use on win 7.

    1. Toolwiz care

    2. Kingsoft pc doctor

    3. ccleaner.

    for optimizing and cleaning I use the above plus ashampoo one click optimizer, slimcleaner, and windows own disk cleanup.

    These will leave your pc clean and fast.

    P.S. a client that I fixed her pc for had so many windows error messages popping up and reboot and intermittently that was driving me nuts. Used the above softwares and cleaned the registry and after reboot all the error messages were gone.
     
  12. AlexC

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    Yes, the error is logged. The number is 0x8007045B.

    "Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x8007045B: Update for Windows 8 Release Preview (KB2718791)."

    I have Windows Update settings set to "Check for updates but let me choose whether to download and install them'. I guess that i have chosen to download and install some update in "freeze" mode, and after the restart something went wrong o_O Anyway its my fault and not Time Freeze...
     
  13. bo elam

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    Great, nothing to worry about.

    Happy surfing Alex.

    Bo
     
  14. burebista

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    Yesterday I was bored and installed it. Worked fine but I've uninstalled after my curiosity was satisfied.
    And that things go crazy. My Object Dock was reset to basic config, Firefox was reset to a clean profile, Comodo Dragon tells me that profile is corrupt and on top of that after one more reboot Windows decides to check my SSD for errors (and found some of course).

    Seven x64 all updates and a SSD if that matters.
    If I'll have more problems today I have a fresh Macrium image made before TF install so no worries.

    Thanks but no thanks.
     
  15. AlexC

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    Again the same error after apply a windows update, and once again i was forced to a hard shutdown.

    You are luckier than me, my last image is with Toolwiz installed. I'll re-format and see if the error doesn't happen again.
     
  16. littleturle

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    I tried the TTF(the one in Toolwiz Care) , so far it is quite stable. It is a smart virtualization allows you to enter/exit the freeze mode at once. This feature makes it quite different from the other ones like Returnil, SD. it seems so far only WTF and TTF support this feature.

    Returnil and SD are very good for the public PCs which need virtualization all days and many users already found they are stable in this field. According to what the Toolwiz team said in their forum. The TTF engine is designed for a "temporary protection", eg. test a new software or try some dangerous website.
     
  17. pegr

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    That's true if you want to save the changes made while in the virtual state; but if you want to discard the changes, you still have to reboot on exit from the virtual state just like the others - at least that's my understanding.
     
  18. littleturle

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    I agree, the TTF can exit the virtual mode on the fly with saving the changes.

    But it is already a big step for TTF as the others still stay in the old instant recovery time. Also it is a great product made by a freeware team. The other one like SD, Returnil are not free any more.
     
  19. pegr

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    The ability to save all changes is something that would be very rarely used, if at all, so not really an advantage from a practical point of view. The main use for programs that virtualize the system partition is to discard changes on exit from the virtual system. TTF, SD, and Returnil all require a reboot to do this.

    Regarding free versus paid software, SD was never free but the license is a lifetime one-off payment. Returnil continues to offer a free version that I believe can optionally save all changes on exit from the virtual mode. What the free version of Returnil doesn't offer is the ability to selectively save only some changes; but as far as I know, the current version of TTF doesn't have that feature either: it's all or nothing when it comes to saving changes.

    I'm not suggesting that TTF isn't a good product, only that it isn't as radically different from the others as you are suggesting.

    Kind regards
     
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  20. The Red Moon

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    This program should only be used to test new apps.Doesnt protect very well against malware.(Rootkits in particular).
     
  21. littleturle

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    I hope you have tried the saving feature in Returnil and SD. It can save the changes, but only can do this when system is shutting down. Also they has very bad compatibility with Win7 x64.

    TTF and WTF works in a totaly different way, TTF can save the changes at once and then you can use the PC normally, and then you can turn on the virtual mode again. So it is not same thing.

    As I know, both Returnil and SD team ware from china and quit the development for many years, as only very few people paid the program to support them.
     
  22. SbUniT

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    So how is toolwiz?

    Good?
     
  23. pegr

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    I didn't say it was the same thing; what I said was that the ability to save all changes would rarely, if ever, be required. I've used system virtualization software continuously for the last 3 years and never once need to save all changes on exit. It defeats the whole purpose of virtualization software to save all changes on any other than an occasional basis.

    Regarding active development, it is true that the SD developer was missing for an extended period of time. It appears that he is back now and is promising further development, but at the present time it is a bit of a wait-and-see situation. I don't know where get you the idea from that Returnil quit development. AFAIK, Returnil has always been actively developed and supported, and has its own support forum at Wilders. SD has an issue with SSD disks, but both SD and Returnil are Windows 7 64-bit compatible.
     
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  24. littleturle

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    Could you ask Tony to make a post in this forum? even a hello all?

    The old providers all ware dead. SD(people could not find the author for 2 years), AyReovery(less than 3 employees and one shareholder sold the code to Comodo), Returnil(no new version for 2 year), Powershadow(no new version for 4 years), even Microsoft give up their solution.

    Reg the new providers, Wondershare which made the WTF got 15M USD investment last year and more than 200 employees now. TTF has updated 3+ times this year. :thumb:
     
  25. bo elam

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    I think it is pretty good. I am using it on W7 32 bits, no issues at all. I use it for trying programs or for making changes in the PC to see how the computer behaves after making the changes. I dont use it for security, for that, Sandboxie is more than enough but I think it can be used for that purpose also.

    I recommend you try it but make sure you don't have anything alike installed and if you uninstall it afterward, do it using their own uninstaller. If you follow those recommendations, it is likely that you wont experience problems.

    Bo
     
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