AppGuard 3.x 32/64 Bit

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  1. pegr

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    Hi Barb,

    Thanks for the clear and comprehensive answer. :thumb:

    I hope you didn't mind the question. I was only asking in order to clarify the licensing situation for all users, including those who had previously been promised lifetime licenses. I've never believed that lifetime licenses - unless priced appropriately - are a sustainable long-term business model anyway.

    For my part, even though I was previously promised a lifetime licence, I am more than happy to forego this and pay upgrade fees for future versions in order to help BRN recoup some of the development costs of a great product. :)

    Kind regards
     
  2. newbino

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    I am using High protection level. You are right in what you say that it installs to default user space, and it does run when I open it, but for some reason it does not autostart.

    Thanks. They are set correctly, I even tried unselect > restart > select > restart to no avail, and a complete uninstall/restart/install but the problem persists.


    I have been able to narrow the User-space exclusion to C:\Users\MYFOLDER\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe, but without it Dropbox just does not autostart.
    It looks like the problem is specific to my setup, I guess I'll have to live with it.
     
  3. Brandonn2010

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    I have some questions about High mode vs. Locked Down

    If high allows signed applications to run guarded, wouldn't that interfere with a signed program trying to update, leading to problems with the update?

    Since more malware is getting signatures, wouldn't that allow the malware to run?
     
  4. jmonge

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    one thing i can say for sure child process will be criple for sure in lockdown or even in high security level
     
  5. SLE

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    Possible, but it will still run guarded.
     
  6. Brandonn2010

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    I would really like to know how much more at risk I would be with AG set at high instead of locked down, especially since I have no AV now.

    Maybe someone could test some malware against AG on high and locked down and see if there was any difference.
     
  7. pegr

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    I did ask MRG to consider including AppGuard in their anti-malware testing alongside DefenseWall - which they do test and which is a similar type of application to AppGuard - but no joy. I imagine they would also need BRN's permission but I never got past the first hurdle as Sveta said they had no plans to include AppGuard in their testing.

    Maybe if other people also contacted MRG, so that they realize that AppGuard is growing in popularity, they might be minded to reconsider. Just a thought ...
     
  8. Brandonn2010

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    So I put AppGuard to high, then tried to install CCleaner (I already have it installed but I needed a program to test). It was allowed to run, probably because it is signed. My question is if the installation would be hampered since it is running guarded?
     
  9. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Maybe its because AG would always block everything, and they would get frustrated trying to find something to get by it LOL No seriously, it should be included in their test. Does BRN have to pay for the test? Maybe BRN just doesn't want to pay for the test.
     
  10. pegr

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    That could be the reason but Sveta didn't say. All he said when I made a tentative enquiry is that MRG had no plans to include AppGuard in their tests, which is a shame. If it was because BRN won't pay then I hope that BRN would reconsider, because it would be good marketing and boost user confidence to be able to point to some independent tests that prove beyond doubt the efficacy of AppGuard against malware.

    I don't hold out much hope that the main AV testing organizations would test AppGuard because it isn't the type of application that fits their testing methodology. MRG seems to be one of the few testing organizations that is prepared to test non-traditional approaches like DefenseWall.
     
  11. Solarlynx

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    This summer I asked Sveta on their site to include AppGuard and Comodo, she answered they plan only to include Comodo in their upcoming tests.

    Maybe it's a good idea to ask them again. AppGuard also fits to Matousec tests. Anybody asked them? AppGuard definitely deserves spreading the word.
     
  12. jmonge

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    good idea my friend:thumb: :thumb:
     
  13. Peter2150

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    If indeed the reason is BRN won't pay them then my feeling is that it doesn't matter. Requirement to be paid by the vendor, takes away their independence, and I wouldn't care about the results. Just my opinion.

    Pete
     
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    Yea, it sort of smells like a ransom. :doubt:
     
  15. pegr

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    Hi Pete,

    Yes, I understand what you are saying. Just to be clear though, I never suggested that MRG ever stated or implied that money was the reason for their refusal. All Sveta said when I contacted MRG was that MRG had no plans to include AppGuard in their tests. He didn't say why and I didn't press him for an explanation.

    The one thing I don't understand though is if the independent testing houses are doing malware research and testing as a full time occupation then someone must be paying for their services, which I assume must be the vendors - unless of course their main source of income lies elsewhere, in which case getting paid for malware testing doesn't necessarily arise.

    Kind regards
     
  16. Cutting_Edgetech

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    I do not think there is anything wrong with being paid for conducting the testing as long as no one is getting paid off to cheat on the test results. Its very time consuming to conduct the test when one uses the correct methodology. That's the only reason I don't mess with testing products myself. I don't have the time to do it right.
     
  17. pegr

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    Yes, I agree. Providing that no-one is getting paid to cheat on the results, it is perfectly reasonable for professional software testers to get paid. They have to eat and pay their bills like everybody else.
     
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    Does AppGuard work on Windows 2003 Server 32 bit? I do not see Windows 2003 Server listed on the AppGuard System Requirements.

    Thanks in Advance.
     
  20. crapbag

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    So FWIW I'm using AppGuard in Locked Down mode alongside some on demand scanners and I'm pretty happy with it.

    No sign of infection in 6 months or so and no slowdowns.

    I feel safe browsing all kinds of stuff Locked Down in the knowledge that AppGuard ain't gonna let anything sneak through, and that's half the battle.

    It doesn't seem to like Spotify or Word in the more secure modes but I can live with that.

    Be interesting to see how the pricing thing comes along. If it means that the product can keep going then I don't mind some kind of upgrade fee.

    Nice one Blue Ridge :thumb:
     
  21. stackz

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    What OS are you using and what problems do you have with Spotify and Word?
     
  22. Barb_C

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    Currently AppGuard does not provide support for Windows Server. The current product supports XP, Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8.
     
  23. Barb_C

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    Thanks!

    What types of events are you seeing with Spotify and Word? I'm not familiar with Spotify and we're not aware of any issues with Word running in Locked Down.
     
  24. crapbag

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    I'm using Win 7 on x64. It's the 2010 Starter Word. AppGuard won't let it run in Locked Down or High. I don't use it too much so I don't mind lowering the protection when using it. I think there's something in the Help document about it.

    Spotify won't run in Locked Down mode either but again I don't use it too much so don't mind dropping to High.

    There are probably ways to make these programs more compatible with the higher settings-like with Sandboxie-but being a noob I don't want to poke around too much.
     
  25. Barb_C

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    I run with high unless I'm doing something risky (like opening an attachment in an email).
     
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