The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Guys. Just doing some reminiscing. I'm gonna start over with Defensewall for a change of scene & I saw a comment from LoneWolf that he likes ShadowDefender in combo with DW. So I've opened up that old folder too.

In it is an extra file that i don't recall - SystemProtect(32).exe (wrapper for shadow defender) What is it?

 

No more news from 'Tony' then? Well, at least now someone answers e-mails, which is a step in the right direction...

 

I have not received a reply to my last 3 emails to Tony after a week or more but I'll try again today.

sdmod Patrick

 

Hey guys,

is there anyone else having problems running Shadow Defender .325 in Windows 8 Release Preview x32?

The problem i'm facing is that after install Shadow Defender and the necessary reboot, my external drives aren't detected. In device manager those are shown with the yellow mark.
After uninstall Shadow Defender everything is normal again...

 

See https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=2100555&postcount=1252

I think that's the correct post I remember...

Best Reguards,
Crane_Mann

 

I hope its true.

thanks!

 

Anyone tried to use .331 version in Windows 8? thanks

 

Adding Shadow Defender to DefenseWall. Is it worth it? I asked about adding Sandboxie and Lonewolf reckons 'no'. Which confirmed what i thought.

So what about SD? What is the benefit of SD if DW is there already?

 

The way I see it DefenseWall is there to stop/block any crap that tries to infect, but some (dead reminents of malware) may remain, hence a quick reboot (Shadow Defender)and all is back to the way it was before the PC was even turned on that day.
So DefenseWall is there to protect from malware being able to do any damage and Shadow Defender (I'm in Shadowmode 99.99% of the time) to bring everything back to a clean slate as if nothing happened in the first place.

 

Oh dear, i 've been reading several pages trying to understand what happened to Tony.

Like others said, why can't he login to Wilders? If he is scared that he will be attacked, well, he can just post "hi" even in chinese and disappear again. At least we will know that it's him. How difficult can that be for him?

 

How would we know it's him? Somethings in life are not at all possible.

 

Because it's unlikely that he sold his company and together he gave also his Wilders account password... Better than guessing...

 

I had set C and Z partition in Shadow mode.Rolled back to a snapshot that didn't have SD installed using Rollback Rx.Then deleted the snapshot in which had been SD installed.Then installed SD in a new snapshot,after restart Z partition was automatically set to Shadow mode while C wasn't set to Shadow mode.Does SD automatically set partitions into shadow mode during install?SD version used 1.1.0.325 in Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit system.

 

Wow! My heads all over the place Not sure about all that but Shadow Defender (as far as I remember) does not automatically default partitions to Shadow Mode on install. Members please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

I haven't used SD for a while (last time i had a BSOD), but the way i remember it, is that upon installation, all of my 3 partitions were checked to go to Shadown mode. But of course it didn't automatically enter Shadow Mode, unless i clicked it do so. I remember that when i install, first thing i do is uncheck my 2 other partitions, leaving only the C: partition checked.

 

Plus DefenseWall may not catch everything. So for anything that slips through, hopefully it will be gone after reboot.

 

I have yet to see anything get past DefenseWall or bypass Shadow Defender
be it a test,POC, visiting an infected site or a live malware sample.
Not to say it's not possiable or that it will never happen, just sayin,
so far (DW for four+ years) so good. (SD for three years)

 

Highly doubtful your normal run of the mill malware would get through either protection.

 

Do you think that DefenseWall is better than Appguard?

 

We are going slightly off topic here as this thread is about Shadow Defender but to answer your question.......
I would say both offer excellent protection provided one understands how each one works. (Reading the help files are an excellent starting point)
I would feel safe running either, that said I have Licenses for both DefenseWall as well as AppGuard (and many others) which I do run from time to time when I feel to urge to change and rearrange my setup, I just seem to always come back to DefenseWall complimented with Shadow Defender. (Personal Preference)
Back on topic I would recommend to compliment either of these two with Shadow Defender, which makes for a killer combo either way.

 

If you have a 64-bit system, the question becomes irrelevant as DefenseWall is only for 32-bit systems.

 

I don't really understand DefenseWall, but from what I gather from previous post is that it basically "sandbox"... Based on that, isn't that what Shadow Defender does? I'm comfortable with SD. The thing that concerns me is when a virus gets into my computer and calls home with all my info, what is the best defense for THAT? I have relied on MS's Security Essentials lately, tho, just because is it MS I don't like it. I'd rather try other products but for various reasons, I ended up with MS Security Essentials. The only thing that has stayed over the years has been SD. Tried and True.

Now, Winsonar has been helpful, providing they would make some improvements...

Anyone want to suggest the complement to SD?

Sincerly,
Aunt Elsie

Win7 x64
Quad core

 

Use Sandboxie and set up restrictions so that only the required program is allowed to run in a particular sandbox and block access to important files and folders to ensure privacy and safety.Also delete the contents of the sandbox to have a clean browser.You can also sandbox removable media.You can also try Appguard, SRP/Applocker to prevent execution of malicious files.

 

It's best not to think of DefenseWall as a sandbox. A sandbox is an isolated area that processes can be run in, away from the real system. On a single host such as a PC, the isolation is enforced by the creation of a virtual environment. This can be on a per application basis like Sandboxie, or on a system-wide basis like Shadow Defender.

The only restriction placed on processes running within the sandbox is that they are not allowed to step outside the boundaries of the sandbox and make changes to the real system. Because the only restrictions are those necessary to enforce the sandbox, sandboxes are useful for software testing. A consequence of this is that malware isn't prevented from running within a sandbox, but any system changes it makes will be contained within the virtual environment. With a virtualization utility like Shadow Defender, additional security is needed to prevent the damage that malware may do in terms of data/identity theft while running.

DefenseWall is not a sandbox because it does not create an isolated environment. It applies a software restriction policy to untrusted processes running within the real system in order to prevent the system from being compromised. Unlike a sandbox, this makes DefenseWall ideal for malware prevention, but not for software testing of untrusted applications.

There is a big difference between software policy restriction programs like DefenseWall and AppGuard, and sandboxing programs like Sandboxie and Shadow Defender that create virtual environments for purposes of isolation.

A two-way firewall with outbound application control might be able to prevent the malware from phoning home but that is by no means guaranteed. The only certain way to prevent malware from phoning home is to avoid getting infected in the first place, which means placing the emphasis on effective prevention.

A policy restriction application like DefenseWall (32 bit) or AppGuard (32/64 bit) is the perfect complement because it will provide effective system-wide protection to complement the system-wide virtualization of Shadow Defender. Also like Shadow Defender, and unlike anti-virus, policy restriction applications don't need to be regularly updated to remain effective. Sandboxie can also be used because it combines policy restriction features along with application virtualization.

 

Comodo free Firewall (with Defence+ enabled).

Avast! free antivirus (best free AV with the least amount of false positives IMO).

MalwareBytes' Antimalware (which by default blocks all your programs from accessing blacklisted IPs).

KeyScrambler Premium (for keystroke encryption Windows-wide).

This is a superb combo in my view. I have used all these alongside SD on many different computers, and they all complement each other very well.