The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. sdmod

    sdmod Shadow Defender Expert

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    As far as I know the checksums I have are from the files from the original 1.1.0.325 as the later ones weren't necessary. I had originally found (what I thought was) a bug in 1.1.0.325 when it was originally released within a short time (the same day) and notified Tony who quickly made some changes and made a fresh release shortly thereafter of the same number. It later transpired that it was not a fault in Shadow Defender but a problem with my system so I notified Tony that the problem was with me. I later discarded the update and kept with the original file (in my case 32 bit)
    I have the 64 bit from then (the checksum that I supplied) but have never used it because I didn't need it. That's all I know really.
    Threre are various checksums floating about but I believe that mine are from the initial release.

    Patrick


     
  2. sdmod

    sdmod Shadow Defender Expert

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    I think that 101cdc867f7771faae6810483ef16439 (32 bit) (the one I use) is ok, I use it on Windows XP 3 and have not had a problem with it.

     
  3. cJ7

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    Cool thank u so much for answering my questions sir Patrick it helps me a lot. :)


    Best Regards,
    cJ
     
  4. EASTER

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    Quick Question:

    Is there any possible conflicts to adding nProtect MBR Guard along with ShadowDefender. I mean can SD alone remove KillDisk MBR Trojan? I employed that small app which immediately & completely stops any MBR/Partition infector from ruining the system's file drive system. It seems for me, a neccessary compliment to SD as added protection.

    Thanks for any answers to this affect.

    Regards EASTER
     
  5. safeguy

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    :) @EASTER

    If I remember correctly, i've tried running them together on win7 32-bit with no visible conflict. I didn't try it against any malware though.
     
  6. TomAZ

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    Shadow Defender vs Reboot Problem

    I just installed Shadow Defender 1.1.0.325 on my Win XP SP3 system and am having some startup and reboot issues. It seems like just about every time I do a cold start (boot) -- or even a "soft" reboot (doesn't even have to be in Shadow Mode) -- my computer locks up and has to be restarted -- at least one more time and sometimes twice. Once it loads, everything seems to be OK. It's acting like there might be some sort of conflict somewhere, but I have no idea where to start looking. Any thoughts?
     
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  7. sdmod

    sdmod Shadow Defender Expert

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    As far as I know Shadow Defender is not susceptible to killdisk attack to mbr.

     
  8. The Shadow

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    Re: Shadow Defender vs Reboot Problem

    Tom,

    What else are you running in the way of security apps?

    TS
     
  9. sdmod

    sdmod Shadow Defender Expert

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    Yes, I've had these sorts of issues in the past in earlier versions.

    Just check that the areas that you are excluding are all the files and configurations necessary for Opera to work, maybe look in
    C:\Documents and Settings

     
  10. TomAZ

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    Re: Shadow Defender vs Reboot Problem

    Although I'm not totally sure yet, it looks like the problem may be resolved. It appears that it may have had something to do with my Start Menu items. I'll have to try it for a while and see what happens.
     
  11. cJ7

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    love my sd..
    still working okay w/o any problems, really happy with it..
    just dropping by to say thanks again to sir ichito, sir cyberman, sir patrick and to all who help me before.. :)

    good day my firends..


    best regards,
    cJ
     
  12. CyberMan969

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    I'm glad you're happy with it CJ :)
     
  13. crykid

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    I use xp sp2 and Shadow Defender disables my active desktop upon reboot with the unexpected error sign, my wallpaper disappears, eventviewer doesnt log anything either. Can someone suggest a solution.
     
  14. aladdin

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    Just in case, is your hard disk a SSD?

    Best regards,
     
  15. crykid

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    No, i think i figured out what the problem is. Before i started using shadow defender i was getting errors with some system, .net files. I managed to fix them. Apparently shadow defender is bringing back those issues, but i certainly did fix the errors even before installed shadow defender. So i have no idea why this happens. Also, this doesnt seem to occur when i shut down and boot up, instead of restarting the system.
     
  16. huntnyc

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    @pegr,
    Need your help, if you are still running Avast Free and SD, what do you do, if anything, to exclude Avast from SD and thanks much.

    Gary
     
  17. pegr

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    Hi Gary,

    I added the following SD executables to the avast! AutoSandbox exclusion list in order to avoid potential problems: -

    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\Commit.exe
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\Defender.exe
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\DefenderDaemon.exe

    I also added the following avast! folders to the SD exclusion list: -

    C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\AVAST Software\Avast\*
    C:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\*

    avast! is one of the few AVs I've used that keeps all of its definitions, program settings, etc in one or other of these two folders without using the registry. By making SD exclusions for these folders, all AV definition updates, program setting changes, etc survive a reboot when in Shadow Mode. The only time I've found it necessary to exit Shadow Mode with avast! is to apply avast! program updates which do appear to involve registry updates.

    Apart from a regular maintenance slot where I apply Windows and other general program and system updates, I keep Shadow Mode enabled all of the time on my system partition, including automatic entry into Shadow Mode after a restart. I have a separate data partition where all of my personal files, including my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles, are held.

    I'm on Windows XP but if you are on Windows 7, I imagine there will be equivalent folders to the ones I've listed.

    Kind regards
     
  18. huntnyc

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    Pegr,
    Thanks much. I am running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit and will be using Deep Freeze with my system because of running SSD now. Hated to leave SD but don't want to take a chance fiddling and hoping it might work with SSD. I will try to apply your infor with my Deep Freeze setup and on older systems with SD setup. Thanks again.

    Gary
     
  19. huntnyc

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    To finish my thought, found out that Deep Freeze's companion product, Data Igloo, does not allot redirecting of Program Files subfolders so no way to exclude Avast folder from being virtualized. Just letting others here know who may have to try and find an alternative for SD because of moving to SSD.

    My search continues.

    Gary
     
  20. pegr

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    Hi Gary,

    Thanks for the update regarding Data Igloo. I had been thinking of trying the DF/DI combination when I eventually move on from SD. It's a real shame that SD is no longer developed or supported because it has been the perfect solution for me.

    Have you considered Returnil? The paid version has the ability to exclude folders, supports multi-partition virtualization and SSDs, and is being actively developed.

    Kind regards
     
  21. aladdin

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    Dear Gary,

    There is no need for Data Igloo anymore, therefore it is no longer being developed. The Deep Freeze Enterprise allows to build a customize Deep Free for each machine. During customization, one can allow for redirection and allowing for maintenance in two ways:

    1. Allowing maintenance time during x hours every day, week, month or so forth. It automatically reboots in thaw state, does the maintenance in the specified time and reboots to frozen state again.
    2. Give access to Microsoft updates and/or AV updates.

    Both SD and Deep Freeze are most vulnerable when the above is taking place and/or being in the thawed state. I have found out every so often it is very easy to boot into thawed state, turn on my restore points, do my updates, reboot, check for nothing is wrong, delete restore points and reboot in frozen state. Usually, I do this when Microsoft and/or my AV informs me about the updates.

    Best regards,
     
  22. aladdin

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    Hi pegr,

    Please see my above post #1121 to Gary. BTW, I don't think Returnil if fully compatible with SSDs.

    Best regards,
     
  23. Moosehead77

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    A little help please.
    Im using windows 7 x64.
    Installed the 64 bit version of Shadow defender .325, followed link on this thread.
    maybe a day later get BSOD, cause diskpt0.sys.
    I figured it was shadow defender since it uses this file. I uninstalled it. No bsod since. Anyway to keep shadow defender installed and not have this bsod issue?

    Thanks.
     
  24. EASTER

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    Thanks smod



    nProtect MBR Guard works well together with SD with no probs on my XP boxes, however i found a disturbing problem when testing it (Not SD) with WinHex hexeditor, with all other editors the Korean made MBR Guard shielded instantly and completely when trying to make manual changes to the MBR locally, but with WinHex nProtect MBR Guard failed to prevent the writing an MBR corruption code.

    Not sure i should manually try to test this danger with just SD though.

    All in all though, at least with internet MBR infectors i tested this duo against, SD & nProtect app done magnificiently!
     
  25. huntnyc

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    Aladdin,
    Just spoke to Faronics and they told me that the minmum number of licenses I would have to purchase in order to get Deep Freeze Enterprise is 15 licenses, a no-go here. You are correct in your statements but it is beyond a home user's finances for most at least from their Tech support I just spoke with. But, as always, thanks for the accurate info.

    Gary
     
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