Sandboxie 3.70 Released

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by TheKid7, May 29, 2012.

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  1. Hungry Man

    Hungry Man Registered Member

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    Like I said, you've just described a market economy business model. The guy at the top gets paid the most and with each position lower (I know of no other devs for Sandboxie or anyone else getting paid, actually) they get paid less until you're at the consumer level.

    There is nothing wrong with this.
     
  2. PC__Gamer

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    Might aswell leave a PC turned off, or not use the internet & disable all drives whilst removing all ports too....

    Its alright saying common sense, but that has nothing to do with how the program protects you - and SBIE (or other sandbox programs) offer as close to 100% protection compared with any antivirus on the market.

    I'm not saying its impenetrable, but its protection rates will certainly be higher than any antivirus available.

    You could say they offer different protection so shouldn't be compared, but they don't really - they are both purchased to keep you malware-free.

    To me, It just sounds like you have a personal vendetta against SBIE. o_O
     
  3. TheMozart

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    Then pay your money and spend your life recruting new business for the owner who makes a profit from your word and you get nothing. Have fun with that, especially if the product gives them a false sense of security and then come asking you about it when their system gets infected or their personal data compromised.

    And remember, "TRUST NO PROGRAM", so that includes ALL PROGRAMS.
     
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  4. chris1341

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    Good thing about this forum is people can express opinions but be careful though not to think opinion, even you're own, is fact. I don't think what I post is anything more than opinion so don't get too upset when people don't agree.

    Let's therefore agree to disagree on this one. SBIE, IN MY OPINION, is the best standalone product on the market and Tzuk just a responsive committed developer.

    Cheers
     
  5. 1chaoticadult

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    Technically you are a Windows user when you boot your Windows OS and play your games lol... :D
     
  6. Zyrtec

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    I've been a SBIE user for several years and, any version I've used so far has never, ever been broken into by "bad guys" out there.

    I've run infected USB flash drives [Sandboxed, of course] and nothing has ever escaped the sandbox to infect my real system.

    Running Firefox within Sandboxie and going to MDL links, trying to deliberately infect my system and, nothing has gotten past SBIE.

    So, I know nothing is malware-proof but, so far [knock on wood], SBIE has never let me down.

    Now, if you have a grudge against PAYING to use software, then that's another story.

    I've seen your rants about Rollback Rx, because you have to PAY for it but...you do NOT want to pay for it.
    The same with SBIE, you have to pay for a license to unlock all the features not offered in the "free" version, but...as usual, you do NOT want to pay for it.


    Writing software has a cost. Man-hours spent. Even so called "freeware" software comes bundled with toolbars because its writers need something to provide for their families and themselves.

    Carlos
     
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  7. Blues7

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    Bingo! Even Amway doesn't produce enough soap to wash every brain needing a good cleansing. :rolleyes:
     
  8. TheMozart

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    Chris, can you please back that up with solid data? Can you show me your test results between SBIE and other programs who's objective is the same.

    I wait for your data and test results. Surely you have some reference data to come to your conclusion that SBIE is the "best standalone product on the market"? Surely you are not being a brainless puppet echoing words from others without having a personal reference source to come to the conclusions you have?

    I eagerly wait for your reply.
     
  9. TheMozart

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    Not that you have known about Carlos.

    BTW, just so there is no confusion.. I am currently using SBIE for the record.

    But my point is... DO NOT TRUST OR RELY so much in a single program.
     
  10. chris1341

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    I have been testing SBIE for years against the latest malware threats. Thousands of samples but I don't record them as I've never needed to as with start/tun restrictions nothing has got through.

    I have a feeling we could go on forever and you won't be convinced, as I say different opinions, so my last words on this subject. Enjoy the debate!

    Cheers
     
  11. TheMozart

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    Why do you say "as close to 100% possible"? What's stopping you saying "100%"? Please state your reasons?
     
  12. Zyrtec

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    @ Mozart,

    Be honest with yourself and admit it: You do not like using software whenever you have to pay for it.

    You like it when the payware software in question is given away for free. Don't you?
     
  13. TheMozart

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    Reminds me of AMWAY.. "You need this product, it is CUTTING EDGE, nothing like it in the whole world! Without it, you are DOOMED!"
     
  14. TheMozart

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    Incorrect and completely false! I have paid for software and been very happy to do so. E.g I have a full version of Winrar and I paid for Acronis TrueImage etc. But I will not part with my money for a "hysteria and hype" program that claims "THE WORLD IS FALLING THE WORLD IS FALLING UNLESS YOU USE MY PRODUCT. YOU CANNOT PROTECT YOURSELF UNLESS YOU USE THIS PRODICT. NOTHING ELSE IN THE WORLD CAN HELP YOU, THIS IS YOUR ONLY CHOICE!!!".
     
  15. PC__Gamer

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    Feel the same way, can't be bothered to entertain the debate anymore.

    Unless Mozart can provide the factual evidence of all the leaks SBIE has and how infected us SBIE users are - I see no point to comment and entertain him.

    Many of us have chucked as much malware at SBIE that we can find, its as close to 100% protection than it can be. (To me, it has been 100%)

    I say as close to 100%, and not 100% because nothing is perfect.

    Even the most bug-free leak-free software available could still be compromised, that's the real common sense.
     
  16. Zyrtec

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    Wow !

    I have never heard or read Tzuk making a broad and bold statement like that.

    Not even DefenseWall's author [whose product has passed all virus tests run by MGR] claims that either about his product.

    Both are humble guys in my humble opinion.

    People who may have claimed that SBIE is almost impenetrable, it's we, the users because, based on our own experience, we can say that [ WELL CONFIGURED], nothing we have tested SBIE against, has gotten past the sandbox.

    But, to each his own and, your mileage may vary.

    BTW, why are you using SBIE if it doesn't protect you anyway?
     
  17. Hungry Man

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    I get the program.
     
  18. TheMozart

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    This is exactly my point..people who run and hide with their tail between their legs as soon as they are asked to show references to their conclusions.

    You just follow and believe what others tell you, without thinking for yourself, and without referring to solid comparison testing.

    As soon as I ask someone, "can you please back that up with solid data and test results between SBIE and other programs who's objective is the same, which shows that SBIE is the "best standalone product on the market?", people usually draw the "run and hide card", "I cannot be bothered to debate...blah blah"

    Just proves my point, MOST users have NO IDEA, they just PARROT what others tell them.
     
  19. TheMozart

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    Why are you making false accusations? Due to anger? Getting defensive because someone is challenging your "Amway Product"?

    Where did I say SBIE provided no protection? Post #?
     
  20. Hungry Man

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    I think if your point is that Sandboxie isn't perfect no one will disagree.

    If the point is that Tzuk is evil and just using us... I think it's kind of silly and not worth discussing.
     
  21. PC__Gamer

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    1. I don't need to prove anything to you, I'm happy with its protection.
    2. As i'm very happy with the software, why should I go to the trouble to provide you a test?
    3. I've tested it myself, same way I test all products I'm trying. Results were obviously good enough to purchase.
    4. You are the one with the objections, so it should be up to you to prove everyone else wrong.
    5. You have the vendetta against SBIE, but you have shown no evidence of leaks in security, or proof that any antivirus on the market can better the protection of a sandbox type app.

    Until you can prove your ridiculous statements, you sound exactly that - ridiculous. o_O
     
  22. TheMozart

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    HM, my only point was... not to believe all the hype without personal research into ALL other alternatives. And not to 100% completely trust in one program to protect you.
     
  23. Hungry Man

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    And that's fine. I just think the way you presented that made it sound like you were trying to attack Tzuk instead of the product.
     
  24. TheMozart

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    So in other words, you have ZERO, ZILCH, NADA personal reference points as to WHY exactly you are using SBIE. You only use it because others have told you it's the "AMWAY CUTTING EDGE SOLUTION THAT NOTHING IN THE WORLD EXISTS LIKE IT".

    Secondly, you said, "as close to 100% possible"? But when I then asked you, What's stopping you saying "100%"? Please state your reasons?, you sidestep and run and hide from my questions. You represent the people that I was referring to, don't think for themselves, believe everything they told and jump on board without any reference or sources that include a fair alternative comparison. AMWAY is knocking, you would probably join them too if they came knocking, because you wouldn't need to compare their products to anything else, you would believe their product is the BEST because they tell you it's the best. :rolleyes:
     
  25. chris1341

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    Ok, you're good I'll give you that you've drawn me back in.

    Not 'running and hiding' just bored with a circular argument. I've not 'followed' what others tell me but use the product that has proved itself against real world malware time and time again for me. I don't 'PARROT' I merely state what my experiences and views are

    Your accusation of ignorance I find offensive to be honest, not for me I don't care, but others who obviously have more understanding of the product than you.
     
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