Windows 8 - Looks really awsome

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  1. Victek

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    Now that I've read the whole post I have to say it's right on. No doubt not everyone will agree on every point, but over all I feel it does a good job of explaining the clash and confusion created by implementing dual UIs and what I call the "second class status" of keyboard/mouse users.
     
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    I mean the correct spelling is awesome.
     
  3. moontan

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    i know, i was just kidding! :D
     
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    Yes, I agree. I was being a little ironic when I wrote 'fix'. ;)

    That's if MS allows those kind of customisations.

    That's for sure. It seems that they are dead-set on this hybrid OS policy.
     
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    This synopsis from your link is very enlightening.

    Wrap-Up

    Windows 8 is a big risk for Microsoft to take, but it seems like an impulse action quickly made in response to another action. Metro is beautiful and has received positive reviews everywhere, but its implementation on Windows is perplexing and unpolished. It seems as though they slapped Metro on Windows just because it's Windows. They know that people will buy it, and if they dig in their heels they can make people live with it. They know that this is probably the only way they can get a foothold in the apps and tablet race.


    People may say that these criticisms are unfounded because Windows 8 is still an unfinished product, but I feel at this point in development this is not an excuse. This is the Release Preview; it's supposed to be close to what they will come out with later this year.


    There are many examples of great ideas at Microsoft that, due to managerial mishandling, become bad products. Clippy was originally actually helpful, but Marketing pushed Microsoft Research to make it more intrusive. Courier died because Bill Gates wanted an e-mail client. I can't help but feel as if Metro is headed the same way.


    To make matters worse, Microsoft is making sure that people can't bring the Start button back, whether it be removing the resources to active countermeasures. They are also removing Aero for a more flat style. With Windows 8, Metro no longer symbolizes a new, fresh design: it symbolizes the construction of a walled garden, the erosion of user freedom, and the end of the Wild West that was once the Windows desktop. Windows was not as safe as OS X, yes, but it also allowed you to do much more: change userstyles, use a different shell, and even deleting explorer.exe. Those days are slowly disappearing.


    It is understandable why Microsoft would do this: they need to maintain relevancy and make money. But they also need to learn from previous mistakes. Windows 8 might just be the new Vista: there will be a backlash (Vista), which compels people to stay on Windows 7 (XP), until Microsoft fixes those problems in Windows 9 (7). They rebuilt their house in order to invite a pyromaniac inside. ~ op cit

    *My apologies for earlier attributing this link to another poster.
     
  6. Victek

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    I think it depends on how big the backlash is. Remember how much people hated Vista and it was a very small change compared to 8. There's only one thing that will make MS backpedal and that is the loss of $$$. If it's expensive enough they will think again. I can't believe they're so stupid that they'd choose to fail instead. Then again look at IBM. It was once all about them.
     
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    I don't think that people as a whole hated Vista for what it was. The real problem with Vista was that it gained a terrible reputation for being broken & regularly un-bootable. In my country (England) Vista was highly praised on its initial release for its intuitive feel, innovation & aesthetic looks. It was mentioned in some reviews that there had been some problems Stateside, but they had been fixed (before SP1). I liked it straight away & still run it on a notebook & a large laptop. I like my Win 7 desktop machine as well, I have no plans to update any of them to Win 8.

    We hope.

    Honestly, looking at the Win 8 hybrid, nothing surprises me about MS any more.

    Yes, judging the market is often a matter of luck. IMO the mistake MS has made (if it is a mistake & not a not-so-hidden agenda) is to have combined both operating systems. This was possibly to save money, although I have a hard time believing that a company as wealthy as MS couldn't have afforded to develop two separate systems.
     
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  10. DonMartin

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    Sorry for not reading all 58 pages with (positive) comments on win 8.
    But I don't like the style. I don't like to watch every thing in a 3 or 4 inch display.
    Do you have a 32, 40, 46 or bigger Tv-set at home? Why?
    Regards /Don
     
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    Then use another display. Problem solved.
     
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    I haven't been too impressed with W8 at least looking at it from an enterprise setting. I can see this solution being perfect for tablets and mobiles. For notebooks and desktops I feel the metro GUI is an obstacle. I also do not enjoy the default gutted W8 desktop GUI either.

    I personally feel this version will not catch on in the corporate setting due to the radical jump with the GUI. I barely can get clients to change from XP to 7; from 7 to 8 I feel half of my clients will have heart attacks. :D

    This OS is fun to poke around in a VM however or a neat “hip” OS to give someone on a personal starter computer for college or some other endeavor. Time will tell though.
     
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    I feel Microsoft is kinda like Nokia, putting all their eggs in one basket.
    They're betting everything that Metro GUI will be successful which i doubt will happen in the desktop environment, maybe in the tablets and AIO PC's but not the regular keyboard + mouse users. o_O
     
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    Yeah ... & look what happened to Nokia.
     
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    I don't know if that was sarcasm or you truly mean it. :rolleyes:
     
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    Ambiguity aside, I thought Nokia had lost a lot of money recently. I could very well be wrong about this.
     
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    Then you really meant it.
    Yeah Nokia has shown very bad results in the last year or so.

    I guess it happens because they bet everything on WP. IMO right now in this day and age it's all about diversification, giving consumers options and what they want, not sticking to dogmas or being prideful.
    They gotta learn it the hard way. Bad move Nokia!! :D :rolleyes:
     
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    They were going downhill before the WP move, adopting WP was to save them, which IS working, albeit slowly. They have practically made WP a Nokia OS considering all the free extras you get with Nokia WP's.

    But please, don't let little facts like that get in the way of some good hatin'
     
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    Actually i really like Nokia phones, specially their low end ones. (Sub $200) :thumb: :D
    Their high end ones are quite okay but what i'm saying is that why don't they have a lineup of Androids and another one of WP, it's a lot better than only offering WP. :rolleyes:
     
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    They can always go back to making photocopying machines anyway. I've owned a few Nokia mobile phones over the years. I switched to Sony Ericsson a few years ago. Nokia's were once easy to use & dominated the market. I just moved on.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I've seen Android ROMs for Nokia smartphones, if you really "must have" Android. I'd personally much rather have WP or a real Linux phone like MeeGo or the rumoured Ubuntu phone. You know, efficiently coded operating systems that don't use poo-tastic Java and don't think allowing apps to automatically send text messages is a good idea.
     
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    Well my first ever smartphone is my current Galaxy S II, before my SGS II i had a few nokias.
    2 ultra low end ones ($30) and 1 XpressMusic ($150) all of them were great and bullet proof. Currently i use them as alarms or backup phones, they are still going strong. :D
    I still need to give WP a try but my budget is limited for these kind of toys. :D :D
     
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