Windows 8 - Looks really awsome

Yes, there will evidently be a "compatibility list" and if the website is not vetted and approved for the list, you're out of luck in Metro.

 

The negativity happens with every Windows release, I'm totally used to it. I recall that even Windows 7 had a number of people screaming that the "new" taskbar would kill Windows and then Microsoft and blablabla. The reality: regular people simply loved it.

@Hungry

Very good article, there are a few points that we disagree, but for the most part I really enjoyed the reading.

 

Interesting. I'll probably edit that in later, thanks.

edit: @SPP, do you really not see anything different this time? I don't remember nearly as much hate for 7. The opposite, really.

 

Hungry, this is what I can find of the "whitelist" thus far. How accurate it is or changed from the time of its creation I don't know. http://iecvlist.microsoft.com/ie10/201205/iecompatviewlist.xml

 

Thanks.

 

I don't remember any negative reviews or negativity when XP or even Vista were released in the UK. A few IT teachers told me that they disliked XP compared to earlier versions. I'm not sure what they disliked about it exactly though.

A great number of people? Screaming?

This is very different though. For the first time the OS is not necessarily optimised for conventional desktop use.

 

Plus there's a risk of people terming it a "disaster".

 

One thing we have to note is that the beta stages of those Windows' versions (XP and Vista) were far less popular and for the most part, closed to selected beta testers. So, maybe you weren't in the right environment to see what was really going on.

 

Duh! I didn't realize it was Hungry's until I saw your comment. Good going, Hungry! Much better than arguing endlessly elsewhere!

 

lol yes well there's definitely that. Easier to simply put the posts out there and let others decide how they take them.

A friend convinced me to finally start blogging and a few others had mentioned I should so I finally decided to.

 

No vasa1. I can decide to quote the points of that blog post that I disagree and reply here... lol

 

I'm fine with Metro as long as i can disable it permanently.
Now the only other thing that i don't like ( I still haven't tried W8 ) based on pictures and my experience with Office is the ribbon tool bar.

Anyways, i still have to give it a try to come to a conclusion.

 

The ribbon is so cool. I love it in Paint and Wordpad, I'm sure I'll love it in Explorer as well.

 

I downloaded the release preview of windows 8 32-bit and was trying to install it on my computer, it aborted with a message "Your PC CPU isn't compatible with windows 8". I have Intel core 2 duo T7500 2.2GHZ processor and it is currently running windows 7 32-bit.

Whats going on?


EDIT:
Okay ignore the above. I found the solution here. Apparently, you need to have "NX bit" enabled in your CPU in order to install windows 8 release preview. I hope they remove this condition in the final release of windows 8.

 

what do you mean "you're sure"?
you haven't tried Win 8 before?

it's just a bloody ribbon.

goodness forbid they could have added something useful instead of the ribbon.
like tabs for example.

 

Oh, I see.

Obviously not being a part of these cabals of selected beta testers, I have no knowledge of the widespread rebellions against these new releases at the time.

Strangely, living in England, a country not known for it arcane knowledge of Microsoft beta computing & its associated coteries, XP, Vista & Win 7 were all, as a whole, quite highly praised on their subsequent releases. We obviously just didn't know 'what was really going on'. *nudge, nudge ... wink, wink*

I'm guessing most people this side of the pond have the same attitude to Win 8 that most seem to have Stateside. Arcane & esoteric cyber-societies notwithstanding.

 

Why do the Microsoft haters and lovers have to descend into the kind of nonsense we see in this thread? When all you can effectively do is seek to damage your opponent's reputation by resorting to personal abuse and criticism then you have most definitely already lost the argument. When even that doesn't work, resorting to the meaningless loser's implication that 'everybody' or 'most people' agree with you serves only to highlight your inability to argue your position in a logical, effective manner. This kind of behaviour should have been left behind when you were an immature, young teenager - so, please do try conducting yourself with a least a modicum of maturity.

That said, many of you are completely missing the essence of what Windows 8 is all about.

When Microsoft developed Windows 95, it was a revolutionary step up from Windows 3.1. With Windows 95, MS foresaw and enabled the desktop market which was about to explode. With successive evolutionary editions of Windows they managed to develop an operating system which became a one-size-fits-all solution for that market. Despite some annoyances and the inevitable 'I-could-do-better' claims from just about everyone on the planet (well, that's us humans for you) no-one has done better. Oh, and no - Vista wasn't a major change in the user interface of Windows: I find that spending just 10-15 minutes with any 'average' XP user will have them up and running productively with Windows Vista (or Windows 7). Once you realise things look different - they aren't really different in any material, conceptual, way - you can essentially just carry on doing things the way you have always done - the fear subsides. The same, I find, applies to the ribbon interfaces that have replaced the old menu-based interfaces.

But Windows 8 does represent a major shift in paradigm.

Sales of desktop and laptop computers have become stagnant, at best. Apple recognised this would happen long before most other observers. They also realised that it was a market in which they simply cannot compete to any major extent (something which the Linux crowd, I’m afraid to say, are still trying to accomplish and still, inevitably, failing). Microsoft have the desktop market well and truly sewn up.

What Apple did was to quietly set about giving consumers what they probably wanted all along: simple, easy-to-use devices that they could carry around to communicate with others and play with their media. Consumers simply don’t (want to) multi-task with computers. As a result, the smartphone and, more lately, the tablet market has become defined by Apple. Yes, Android has a foothold, but it’s not much more than that right now. The handheld computer market is huge, and so far Microsoft have no part of it.

Clearly, Windows 8 and the Metro interface are what MS are piling their chips on. Trying to compare it with Windows 7 or anything that has gone before in the desktop market, and whingeing about the changes, misses the point entirely. If you don’t like it, and you are the kind of person that is (with perhaps good reason) not going to give up your desktop or laptop then that’s fine – you are not the kind of user that MS is targeting here. With a few exceptions, you will stay a MS customer on your trusty Windows 7 for some time yet. What Windows 8 will do is undoubtedly hasten the decline of the consumer desktop market, and simultaneously position Microsoft perfectly to take advantage and grab a good slice of the defectors. This is not the behaviour of a monopoly, since MS have no presence in the sub-desktop market anyway. This is, in my view, healthy competition in practice. I believe it is the consumer who will benefit in the long run.

So, where does that leave businesses, power users, and others who (often necessarily) multi-task on their computers (and I count myself among that group)? Well, exactly where they are now, I suggest. The XP crowd will continue slowly migrating to Windows 7 (well, probably more than slowly as extended XP support expires), and they will wait while Microsoft ignores them as far as Windows 8 is concerned. And yes, it is most likely that Microsoft are simply ignoring the business market for a while, not abandoning it. After all, they have such a stranglehold on that market that it is hardly going to slip through their fingers while they take this gamble that is Windows 8.

Yes, they are taking a gamble, and they are quite open about that. If it succeeds in wresting a significant portion of the consumer market back from Apple then it will be hailed as a brilliant move. If it doesn’t, the Microsoft haters will make their usual noise, but Microsoft will still be around. They are plenty big enough, and wise enough, to ensure that.

 

Running the RP in VMWare. There are thing to like and not like. Also things to get used to. I will say that the new Task Manager is almost reason enough for me to upgrade. I'm still holding off my final judgement on it until I see the final and the new theme that will be replacing the current "glass" theme.

 

Yes it was. It simplified things down quite a bit. I think that it was enough of a change & very well accomplished. Unfortunately, Vista, inchoately suffered from a lot of other problems, which inevitably created Win 7. It was easy enough to transfer from XP to Vista/7 though. There are marketing reasons why MS has developed Win 8. That can't be denied. I just don't agree with the idea that the desktop market has evaporated. That's my five bob's worth.

 

I have something similar here on my laptop and didn't have any problems installing. I went with the x64 edition though....

 

I agree with you Daveski17... I do think desktops are declining, but I certainly don't think the laptop is on it's way out yet. Not at all. I think they'll be around for a long time to come.

Someone else mentioned the task manager, I do like the changes there too. Pretty nice stuff... that and the super fast boot.

 

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Microsoft reinvents the wheel with Windows 8 by John Dvorak

Article

Just a note, not all of John's predictions comes true.

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2007-03-28/news/30774497_1_apple-handset-business-market

 

John Dvorak is always ranting against everything. He criticizes for the sake of criticizing. I lost the interest in reading his articles a long long time ago.

 

i have to agree with Dvorak, to some degree.

i certainly don't see companies and businesses rushing to install this on their network.
and i certainly don't see desktop and laptop users going out of their way to purchase Windows 8.
maybe XP users will buy it when their OS aren't supported anymore, in 2014 i think...

the only people who will be getting it, mostly, are people who will be buying new computers.

it remains to be seen how successful it will be on tablets and smartphones.