best vpn ? any recommendations?

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by happyyarou666, Feb 9, 2012.

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  1. mirimir

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    Indeed ;)

    But this doesn't get you the extra anonymity supposedly provided by multi-hop VPNs, such as multiplexing, where multiple VPN tunnels from different entry nodes (and perhaps from other cooperating providers) are routed through the exit VPN node.
     
  2. nessy90

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    Can I ask someone to give their opinion on Air VPN.
    Nessy
     
  3. PaulyDefran

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    Fast, takes Bitcoin, great support (both email and forum), very transparent on explaining how they operate, servers in Germany, Holland, Sweden, UK, and USA, Support DD-WRT, and VPN over/through Tor. Based out of Italy I think, but maybe Malta? They've been discussed on here before, but I can't remember the exact details. I have numerous accounts with different providers, and they are one of them...but I'm no expert on this stuff...I just want to blind my ISP...I'm very boring.

    PD
     
  4. nessy90

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    Thanks PaulyDefran appreciate youre response.:D
     
  5. pcdoctor36

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    I use Giganews, VyprVpn and Tor. The reason I use Tor is to access hidden services. I am not likely to give up TOR for the hidden services. Coming soon Comcast and Verizon and several other ISP's are going to start privacy infringement practices. See URL:

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/RIAA-copyright-cops-Anonymous-Time-Warner-Comcast,news-14459.html

    Here are my agenda items:

    1: My ISP is Comcast. I don't want Comcast being aware of my surfing habits. I don't want them knowing I am using Tor to access hidden services. I don't want Comcast knowing when I download an nzb. I use VyprVpn because it reportedly encrypts from the socket to your breakout of choice in theory blocking Comcast from seeing what I am doing. I would appreciate your feedback.

    2: Since it is hidden services I am after I have accepted the slowdown when I use TOR (a no brainer). What I have a problem with is TOR affects my wifes computer who is on the same network. Can someone recommend a strategy that would isolate her computer so she is not affected by my use of tor or is the bandwidth drop on the overall connection so severe that the slowdown she is experiencing unavoidable? I pay for 20 down per month and have tweaked the pipe so I am recieving 35 (approx) down.

    3: I am using TOR Buttonn in Firefox 11. Any issues? Should I download the TOR browser and use it? What are the benefits. I am worried about leaks.

    Thank you in advance for your help.
     
  6. EncryptedBytes

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    Regardless of how you encrypt your ISP at the very least will log you sending and recieving from VyperVpn servers. They won't know what is going through the established circuit however.

    I am not sure what hidden service you are using (All the ones I've seen on the .onion network are suspect to say the least) though no it should not be causing slowdowns for others on your network unless both you and your wife are utilizing a lot of bandwidth. Example she is streaming Netflix and you are pulling files through Tor.

    The Tor creators themselves recommend their browser bundle, it is configured to not leak and contains special settings to work correctly with their proxy services. I'd suggest you use that instead of the Tor button.
     
  7. pcdoctor36

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    Good recommend. I will go to the newest TOR bundle when I have a chance. Can you talk to me about VPN leaks please? I have no knowledge.

    Thank you
     
  8. pcdoctor36

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    By the way, I thought I would add that if you can put blinders on when you are in the deep web, there are many completely legitimate and extremely useful tools and information that are not readily available on the clearnet. One simply has to get past the fact that the deep web is comprised of some of the lowest and slimiest elements known to mankind and move on to the more legitimate sites and resources. My two cents worth for whatever relevance it has.
     
  9. gtredx69

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    Read through VyprVPN terms and conditions, I have read through all these posts a few times now and I do remeber seeing that VyprVPN i sone of the worst for logging all your data.
     
  10. DasFox

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    Well I'm back in the house, do you suspect a conspiracy going on? LOL... ;)
     
  11. LockBox

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    Seems like forever and a day ago I left that message. Well, we're talking about VPN services and then certain "regulars" are all of the sudden gone and newbies show up then....ad infinitum. I was just wondering if people were "testing the wares" as it were.

    No conspiracy, pretty logical if you ask me.
     
  12. DasFox

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    Nah, just moving on in life...
     
  13. bryanjoe

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    as i m light user, can suggest a metered VPN service? so far, i came across AlwayVPN offering it?

    else may just get witopia...
     
  14. LockBox

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    I use AlwaysVPN anytime I'm away from home for safety. Speeds are excellent. Prepaid plans last forever if you're just browsing.
    Bandwidth never expires.
     
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  15. bryanjoe

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    thanks for your input
     
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    I've been using AlwaysVPN for quite awhile and am very pleased with their speed and safety for, hmmm, generic internet stuff in the US. Would not recommend them for high privacy usage though. Also, I am currently searching around, based upon recommendations in this and "the other" thread, for a full time VPN, with good privacy/security policies, as rules on internet privacy in the US seem to be evolving in a minus fashion. Have not seen any metered services that fall into the high privacy area though.
     
  17. Lyx

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    I fully agree with that.
     
  18. Lyx

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    2 hops VPN is better than 1 hop, but under the condition that the 2 hops of the VPN are not 2 simply chained hops, but 2 nested ones.

    I have seen some VPN provider claiming that they are providing multiple hops vpn, but how to be sure it is really nested and not simply chained hops ?? I remain unable to give an answer to this question.

    So, are you sure that the nodes of your 2 nodes vpn are really nested ? And if so, how do you do in order to be sure ??
     
  19. mirimir

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    Why is that?

    I do get that chaining is less secure than nesting, because user traffic is decrypted at entry node. But, if entry node is compromised that completely, is it likely that exit node would remain secure? In either case, traffic analysis is harder for two-hop VPNs, because there can be multiple entry and exit nodes.

    I don't know. Insorg says: "With double VPN you connect to the first server in chain, but access Internet from the second VPN server." iVPN's diagram of multihop routing looks like chaining. I vaguely recall discussion with another provider, where they claimed that multiple entry VPN connections were multiplexed in VPN tunnel to exit node. But I have no way to verify that.

    I haven't attempted to determine.
     
  20. wobbler

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    I think a lot of people are missing the point of a multihop. Sure, with 2 hops or 10 hops you still have no more reason to trust your VPN provider to be faithful and protect your information. But it solves a fundamental problem with VPNs. When you send information through a VPN, somebody can just watch the traffic going in and out of that server, and see that their times match up, and follow the trail back to you. If that information has to go from one VPN server to another, that information will be alongside that of many other users, thus camouflaging it to an outside observer.

    I don't see why everybody says AirVPN is so secure. I actually ruled them out based on security. Look at their privacy policy:



    "Iridium servers and software procedures acquire only personal data which are strictly necessary for the technical functioning of the service, for example IP address. These data are not collected to identify, through elaboration or any other technique, users' personal identities. These data are not transmitted to third parties.

    Pressure from private actors to obtain any data (including but not limited to IP address of users) is an illegal act and Iridium, in order to protect its business and the users' privacy, reserves the right to inform the competent authorities and prosecute the private entities responsible for such illegal acts."



    What that says to me is that they DO store information on users and they're spinning a load of BS to distract us from the fact that governments can just walk in with any moderately good excuse and take that information whenever they want.
     
  21. PaulyDefran

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    I don't read it that way:

    They state on their user status page:

    ..and any VPN provider can see the same thing. They *know* where you are connecting from. How could they not? (And Air officially notifies users of, and supports connecting through Tor. I wouldn't think a 'bad actor' would mention this if they wanted to rat you out at some point).

    I read this differently than you. I read it as they will do everything they can to protect the reputation of AirVPN as a trusted, anonymous service and their user's privacy. They're talking about going after the people that are trying to get user info, not the users. That's how I read it anyway.

    PD
     
  22. Snowden

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    My greatest concern is having a dedicated IP for personally specfiic accounts (mail, online banking, paypal, ebay etc.) because I'm afraid a shared IP would be blacklisted / raise flags

    Yet, I want another connection for general activity web browsing, etc.

    From that, would you recommend two separate vpns? or is there a one service fits all solution?
     
  23. mirimir

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    Use separate VPNs, or at least separate exit nodes. Having a consistent IP address for each "identity" (email account, forum registrations, etc) is good. Having the same IP address for multiple identities is bad.
     
  24. hashed

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    Yep, it is Italy, and I second the opinion, great provider from what I can tell thus far :)

    ~h
     
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  25. hashed

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    I am trying to remember where, and I know its on this forum, but there is a great link to what AirVPN states in regard to their policy and how they meant it to be interpreted and PD has it right. They actually go out of their way to tell you to connect to TOR first and THEN AIRVPN, making it fairly difficult to discern what your "real" IP truly is. They are also IMHO quite upfront about how a superior entity that had visibility to various portions of the Internet could statisitically discern your true IP. I think it does come down to one thing, some level of trust though. Unfortunately, if you use DD-WRT, well you cant exactly be connected to TOR first :) I like to connect via AIRVPN, and then fire up TOR bundle to do some of my surfing. I am having to evolve new habits to separate my various identities, but it's been a lot of fun thus far.

    ~h
     
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