Paragon Migrate to uEFI

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  1. Paragon_MA

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    Paragon Software Group proudly announces its latest utility for easiest way of migrating MBR disk based OS and data to uEFI configuration (mostly for hard drives that exceed 2TB limit).
    Join the early adoption testing today and get your free copy.

    Product web page: http://www.paragon-software.com/technologies/components/migrate-to-uefi/
    Reviewers Guide: http://download.paragon-software.com/doc/RG_Migrate2uEFI_eng291111.pdf

    And we would be thankful if you fill this questionnaire:
    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes
    b. No. Please send us detailed info on the encountered problem with the following log files: stubact.log,
    biontlog.txt, fdisk.txt, pwlog.txt, which you can find in the “program” folder of the installed product.
    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes
    b. No. Please send us detailed info on the encountered problem with the following log files: stubact.log,
    biontlog.txt, fdisk.txt, pwlog.txt, which you can find in the “program” folder of the installed product.
    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes
    b. No. Please list stages that caused problems to you and suggested improvements from your side.
    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes
    b. No. Please list all confusing dialogs, or better send us screenshot based examples.
    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes. Please describe features you want to have in the next version.
    b. No.
    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    a. Yes. What else would you like this solution to do? (i.e. migration to a bigger drive, support of complex
    configurations, etc.)
    b. No. It is good already and complete.
    Thank you for your participation - We'll look forward for your feedback!

    Thank you to everyone in advance
    With best regards
    Paragon Software Team
     
  2. thebigolddog

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    Am I correct in determining this only works for the target machine? In other words, this can't be done on a non-UEFI machine that is being migrated to a new UEFI machine with new hardware? It seems to me, that would be the most likely scenario for using this tool - migrating to upgraded hardware. So, what most people would be doing would be making an image of the old machine, converting it to be compatible with UEFI and hopefully, strip out and replace the hardware specific features (drivers) of the old machine and allow a re-detection on the new bare metal hardware.
     
  3. Mech_An

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    Migrate to uEFI doesn't perform adjustment for booting from dissimilar hardware. It is intended for migration to another boot mode of the same machine.

    Windows 7 often doesn't need adjustment (even for migration from Intel to AMD machine) if HDD controller driver exists in Windows repository. To get it work you can temporary switch off third-party Marwel or JMicron support feature in BIOS\EFI and set SATA mode to IDE\Legacy.
    If Windows 7 fails to start P2P Adjust OS will be required.
     
  4. liston

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    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes

    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?

    b. No.

    b. No. It is good already and complete.

    nice software
     
  5. commodore64

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    having a bit of trouble--uefi will not run on my machine and paragon exchange protection 1.1 will not run on my win 7 pro 64.

    asus m3n-ht deluxe mobo
    dual core at 3.0 ghz
    8 meg ram
    1tb raid
    will try my other mobo
     
  6. Mech_An

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    I don't see anything that can prevent Migrate to uEFI to run on your machine.
    Could you please specify what exact error appears or what is not working?
     
  7. liston

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    I Still have not found any problems
     
  8. fubushi

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    And we would be thankful if you fill this questionnaire:
    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    b. No.
    "Wizard does not support dymanic disks"

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    b. n/a

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes

    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes. Please describe features you want to have in the next version.
    Support dynamic drives.

    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    Can not say at this point.
     
  9. mickiem

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    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?

    Yes. Worked fine installing to or in a few Windows installs.

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?

    Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?

    Yes. I liked the explanation of why certain disks/partitions were excluded, but *might* want to re-empasise 64 bit only.

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?

    Yes

    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?

    Yes... More like sugestions than absolute needs, a way of reversing the process would be nice, i.e. UEFI/GPT -> MBR -- Paragon's done a lot of work & is I think very well respected in virtualization circles, but UEFI support is lagging in VM hosts... right now I don't know how you'd do P2V with a UEFI installation. 2nd, I've read some reports that XP 32 may indeed be possible with UEFI, but from the little I've read it's been something achieved by manufacturers rather than something users or IT could accomplish... Is this something Paragon could or would want to try & tackle? All the XP users still around would make for a pretty big market.

    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?

    Yes, but again more suggestion than absolute need... Right now installing Windows on a UEFI PC/laptop can be difficult. Use a setup DVD & the board may insist on using MBR mode accessing the disc, so win7 won't install to GPT in UEFI mode -- try to transfer the setup files to USB stick & the tools to do that won't touch an ISO made from the setup DVD [have to copy the files & create an ISO without the boot portion] -- at least one of the tools to create that bootable USB stick sets the stick up as NTFS, which UFEI won't [can't?] use. All that IMHO makes Migrate to UEFI by far *The* best choice for people upgrading hardware. To that end combining Migrate to UEFI & P2P Adjust would seem ideal.

    Less important in my opinion, right now Migrate to UEFI seems to work fine targeting a VHD as well as a physical drive/partition, & once on a VHD, backups can be made etc. so the originating & target drives don't have to be in the same place &/or connected. I would imagine there are scenareos OTOH where having that sort of capability biult into Migrate to UEFI would prove useful, with IT for example creating/storing UFEI images. Likewise creating EUFI images from existing MBR backup images might be useful, the same way you can do P2V using a backup image in other Paragon software.
     
  10. Mech_An

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    mickiem,

    Thank you for very detailed review :)


    fubushi,
    Dynamic disks migration is not supported for now.
     
  11. vhick

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    Thank you very much for this software. This will be less headache migrating your system to uEFI.

    And we would be thankful if you fill this questionnaire:
    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes
    b. No. Please list stages that caused problems to you and suggested improvements from your side.
    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes

    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes. Reverse the process after conversion will be awesome but not limited to.

    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    b. No, at this time.
     
  12. liston

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    I have still not recovered any problems
     
  13. liston

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    I have not noticed any problems yet.
     
  14. liston

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    I still have not received any problems
     
  15. TheJoker

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    It did not work for me, it even nearly killed my MBR disc.
    Wher do I have to send the log files?
     
  16. Heychris

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    I've done this on several HP elitebook laptops. The 8440p, 8460p, 2560p and 2540p.

    And we would be thankful if you fill this questionnaire:
    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes- I would have preferred more options

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes


    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes. I would like to see a disk to disk copier included. I did the migration to another disk then copied it back onto the original. It would be easier to do if that was in the tools. Partition structure - I'd like advanced partitioning information. The ability to change the ESP partition from 100mb to 200mb would be nice.


    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    a. Yes. In addition to disk migrate, I'd like to see some more information on what is being done. I noticed there isn't a MSR partition. I'd be curious to know why. Also. It'd be good to know what if any is being changed in the files and registry.
     
  17. Planet38

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    Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?

    No.

    I can not install the programs Paragon-235-PEE_WinInstallSNU_10.0.19.14476_000.msi or Paragon-PEP_WinInstallx64_1.0.11.12034_000.msi

    I get the following message when I try to install it:

    Paragon Migrate to uEFI does not work under this OS!

    I can not provide the requested information because no Program File exists because the program will not install.

    I thought these programs were for Windows XP but they seem to be for Vista or Windows 7.

    I am trying to be able to partition a 3TB disk to enable my Windows XP OS to utilize this disk as storage.
     
  18. yasuhirose

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    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    Yes

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    Yes
    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    Yes
    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    Yes
    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    No.
    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    Yes.
    Adjust partition Size at migration,I hope adjust data partition size.

    I use AMD FX-8150 With Asrock 990FX-Extreme4 16GB RAM With Geforce GTX470
    Source DISK WD20EARS
    Destination Corega CG-HDC4EU3500 HardwareRaid(RAID0 by Sumsung HD103SJ x4)

    All process is clear,but I confuesd very long time between click "Migrate" to show next dialog.
    I misunderstood stop program.
     
  19. gtaha

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    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes
    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes
    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes
    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes
    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    b. No.
    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    b. No. It is good already and complete.
     
  20. WernerHo

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    Hi
    First of all excuse my english, but I'm only a simple German-Guy...
    Tested the Migration Tool and it works, but.....
    1. The Migration was succesfull
    2. The Booting was succesfull
    3. The Process is intuitive
    4. The Dialogs where simple and clear
    5. Yes, I think there would be some nice additional features.
    I migrated from a 1,5TB to a 3 TB Disk and I missed a feature that allowed me
    to change the size of the partitions, because the automatic change is not exact that what I liked to do.
    6. The functuionality doesn't need to be extended, but it would be nice (see above). Changing Sizes of the partitions is one feature, and a possibility to change the Language would be great (see below)

    My Problem: the the migration takes all in all about 5-6 Hours, that's not bad, but the reamining Time that was displayed showed at the beginning '19 Minutes' and after 4 Hours it showed '4 Minutes' and so on..
    After the migration was completed I tryed to change the partition-sizes. After that the System dindn't start anymore.
    Windows said, that I have to do a Repair-Installation. That dindn't work, because the German Installation-Disk wasn't accepted anymore. So I did the Migration again (5-6 Hrs.) And now I have Partitionsizes wich are not perfect to me and the Prestartmessages are in English.
    BUT:
    Important to say!!!!:

    Before doing the Migration with Paragon I tryed severall tools and none of them worked!
    So all in all the Paragon Migration to uEFI is a really great thing. It works and does everything it was built for.
    Some additional features would be nice, but not absolutly necessary.
    German Language for me seems to be helpful.
    Finaly I thank the developers for this nice piece of Software!
    Have a nice Christmastime and all the best for 2013!
    Greetings from Germany
    Werner
     
  21. sy5tem

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    this doesn't work with windows 8 MBR upgrades :(
     
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  22. Robin A.

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    Could you explain? What do you mean?
     
  23. sy5tem

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    i meant windows 8 .. damit :(

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    there was an issue with windows 8 , when trying the software, windows 8 compatibility would simply not allow the execution of this software!

    the way around is to use gpedit.msc and change 2 value:
    http://quebec-gamers.com/pic/gpedit.windows.compatibilty.jpg

    then you can execute , and it also works!

    i tried to run and copy my 2x256mb raid 0 SSD to a single 1TB esata drive and it worked flawlessly ...

    now i cloned my raid 0 to a single 1tb drive and i am going to try and mbr to uefi 1TB ---> raid 0 ssd .... i will post update


    !!!UPDATE: cloning my windows 8 to my external eSATA and then starting windows 8 on the esata drive , then using migrate to UEFI targeting my 2x256gb SSD in raid 0 on intel ich, worked!
















    And for the questionnaire!!

    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes

    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes
    Abilities to transform 1 drive rather then migrating to new hd.

    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    b. No. It is good already and complete.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2013
  24. MrSHovel

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    1. Was your migration from MBR\BIOS to GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes (Had to disable real time protection in Microsoft Security Essentials or Paragon program would not come up)

    2. Was booting from the resulting GPT\UEFI successful?
    a. Yes

    3. Was the migration process intuitive?
    a. Yes (but 20 second delay when program started caused me to think it wasn't running - suggest you bring up some spinner icon or something)

    4. Were all program dialogs clear to you?
    a. Yes


    5. Do you think that Migrate to UEFI needs additional features?
    a. Yes. (See question 6 response)

    6. Do you think that functionality of Migrate to UEFI needs to be extended?
    a. Yes.

    I had just assembled a new build on a 2TB HDD and had already done a windows 7 install but by default the windows install DVD didn't do it in UEFI mode. So I was looking for a way to convert the existing MBR disk to a UEFI disk.

    The current "Paragon Migrate to UEFI" worked fine cloning the 2TB drive to another drive (an old 320GB drive) but I wanted a way to then clone the new UEFI drive BACK onto the original 2TB drive.

    I think you should expand the program to allow (once a user has confirmed a successful initial MBR -> UEFI conversion) to clone the NEW UEFI disk back to the original disk - effectively converting the original disk from MBR to UEFI.
     
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