Panda Cloud Antivirus Beta 1.9

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by pbust, Apr 29, 2011.

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  1. atomomega

    atomomega Registered Member

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    Oh OK. That's great news as more and more new firewall products are being released only for Vista/7.
    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  2. SweX

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    I would add 8 as well, incorporate the URL Blocker feature into the core, and stop using plugins. When that's done i'm in :thumb:
     
  3. xandros

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    plz tell me if panda cloud will protect me if i use any flash memory and inside this flash memory virus !!
    and plz tell me if its will make my computer slow or its very light ??

    thanx
     
  4. ReverseGear

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    Very light :thumb:
     
  5. atomomega

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    It WILL protect you. ;)
     
  6. Wendi

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    A few days ago I added Panda Cloud AV Beta 1.9.1 to complement Shadow Defender and so far the two of them are working smoothly and effectively. :thumb:

    Panda is by far the 'lightest' AV & FW that I have ever used - if it were not for the Panda icon in my system tray I wouldn't even know it's there!
     
  7. pegr

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    Hi Wendi,

    I would be interested to know if you are seeing the following issue that I experienced, posted here: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1972282&postcount=108.

    The problem is that the PCAV firewall doesn't resolve the path names in the same way with Shadow Mode enabled so all connection attempts appear to be new even though there are previously stored allow rules. I have posted this in the Panda forums and this issue has been confirmed by the Panda developers. What I don't know is whether it is specific to Windows XP or whether it affects all O/S versions.

    Another thing to be careful of when using PCAV and SD together is that in my experience sometimes when entering Shadow Mode, not all selected partitions get virtualised even though the SD tray icon turns blue. By positioning the mouse over the SD tray icon you can see which partitions are running in Shadow Mode so it's easy to check if this has happened.

    I found this to happen fairly randomly - sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. I suspect it is related to SD having to lock the disk partition in order to enter Shadow Mode when PCAV is busy accessing it. It happens on both the 1.5.1 and 1.9.1 versions. If this happens to you there is an easy workaround. Just disable PCAV real-time protection before entering Shadow Mode then enable it again afterwards.

    Hopefully, these minor incompatibilities with SD will be resolved before the final release of 2.0.

    Regards
    pegr
     
  8. Wendi

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    Hi pegr,

    Strangely enough, I have not (yet) encountered that issue on my WinXP Pro x86 laptop! Fwiw I always enable Shadow Mode right before going on the internet using IE8 (ie., I never bootup into Shadow Mode).

    Do let me know if there's a way I can help you further to resolve this issue.

    Regards,
    Wendi

    Edit: I don't know if this affects the situation, but I have set Shadow Mode exclusions for my Panda Cloud AV folders under Program Files and Docs & Settings.
     
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  9. pegr

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    Hi Wendi,

    Apologies for the delay in replying but I've been working over the weekend and have only just seen your reply. Thank you also for the PM. :)

    If you are interested, the original correspondence between myself and the official moderator on the PCAV support forum concerning the firewall issue is here: -

    http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=61891&tstart=15

    As you can see, they were able to reproduce the issue I reported and said it would be reported to the developers. I'm glad you are not having any issues though.

    Regards
    pegr
     
  10. xandros

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    thank you
    i think i will wait the final of panda cloud free then i will try it
    i wish its will be strong on virus and light on computer also on netbook
     
  11. fblais

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    I hope you're not in a hurry.
    Panda Cloud seems to be in beta phase since the beginning... :(
     
  12. Wendi

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    Hi pegr,

    All that I can factually tell you is that I'm running SD with Panda every day (with several restarts/day) and I have not experienced so much as a hiccup! So I can't understand why you are experiencing those issues, as I believe we are both running the very same versions of SD (v1.1.0.325) and Panda (v1.9.1), as well as Windows XP Pro (SP3) x86. o_O

    Wendi
     
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  13. pegr

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    Hi Wendi,

    Every machine build is different and problems can occur on one system that don't occur on other systems with a very similar specification. It may be down to specific software or hardware drivers that I have and you don't. It may be down to other third-party software that is running, or even leftovers in the registry from software that is no longer installed. There are many reasons why apparently similar systems will behave differently.

    Regarding the firewall issue, I'm surprised that you can't reproduce this because it has been confirmed as an issue in the Panda support forum. It isn't a show stopper though; it just means that the firewall will prompt again the first time an application tries to connect in Shadow Mode for which an allow rule was previously automatically made prior to entering Shadow Mode; because it doesn't recognise the path name that the rule was stored under.

    It is easy enough to test yourself. Open a browser session and make a connection outside of Shadow Mode then do the same thing again after entering Shadow Mode. If you look at the firewall rules that PCAV has generated you should see duplicate rules for the browser under different path names. As I say, it's not a big deal, and certainly not a reason in itself not use PCAV. I reported it as part of beta testing that I was doing for Panda.

    I have a 3-year licence for the pro version and the only reason I don't use PCAV at the moment is due to other system stability issues I experienced, which fortunately you don't seem to be experiencing. I'm glad that it works for you. When using disk virtualization software, combining it with a cloud antivirus that doesn't need frequent updating has obvious advantages. When the next beta build is released, I plan to test PCAV again.

    Regards
    pegr
     
  14. Wendi

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    Yes, after following your instructions I do see those kind of duplicates inside Panda's firewall, but (as you indicated) that in itself isn't a big deal to me.


    Yes, using Panda with Shadow Defender sure is nice! I still have a license for NIS 2012 which I was using before Panda, but its daily updates usually got wiped-out by Shadow Defender when doing a shutdown/restart. With Panda I don't have that concern. While I don't know if Panda provides a comparable level of protection as NIS, I feel that the added security of SD's Shadow Mode more than makes up for it. :thumb:

    Wendi
     
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  15. pegr

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    According to AV-Comparatives test results, PCAV and NIS have similar detection rates. Both are at the upper end of the scale in terms of protection so you'd be well protected with either of them. As you rightly say, with SD's Shadow Mode the detection rate of your chosen AV is not as relevant as it would be if you were solely relying on an AV for protection. With SD, a missed detection won't lead to permanent system infection.
     
  16. 1000db

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    I was playing with the beta on a test laptop I use that is loaded with Win 7 32-bit. I have IE9 and the latest non-beta Chrome browsers. Something odd I noticed is that when downloading a known malicious file, the file is detected far sooner with IE than with Chrome. The file is detected the instant I begin the download in IE, but in Chrome the file downloaded completely once before it was detected. Then another time it was detected a little over half way through. Is it because PCAV can't read the CRDOWNLOAD file like it can the IE's PARTIAL file? I have the md5 in case Pedro needs it.

    detection.jpg

    Note: in the image above the file in Chrome was still downloading when the screen shot was taken. Has anyone else experienced this?
     
  17. trjam

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    Yep, a very good product with excellent results.:thumb:
     
  18. carat

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    Has that bug been already fixed? :doubt:
     
  19. pbust

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    This is not a bug. The autorun deactivation is by default when installing PCAV.

    Regardless, XP, Vista and Win7 (since Feb 2011 MSFT Windows Update) deactivate autorun by default now.
     
  20. SnowFlakes

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    if panda cluld free antivirus was as light as avira then maybe just maybe i would use it!!
     
  21. ReverseGear

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    It is lighter than avira :thumb:
     
  22. trjam

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    I dont know if its lighter but Panda rules at keeping your browser working very fast. Avira will make web pages crawl to a halt. Of all products Panda has the least impact on web browsing I have seen. And detection is great.

    My avatars may change but trust me, Panda rules the roast with me and 2.0 will be great.
     
  23. Rompin Raider

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    I am writing that down! And will try 2.0 when it comes out....1.9 was certainly good!
     
  24. kjdemuth

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    Ditto. Panda cloud pro 1.5 has been given a (fairly) permanent seat on my laptop. Its fast, detection is great and I can hardly tell that its there. I can't wait for 2.0.
     
  25. Rompin Raider

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    Uh....go ahead...Patriots or Giants?;)
     
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