another Windows Firewall Control?

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by moontan, Feb 15, 2011.

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  1. Greg S

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    Yep, I'm slow. I have installed and see where it can be easily copied. I use different sources for IP whois but this is the one I use most of the time
    http://networktools.nl/
     
  2. Broadway

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    WFC comes to be almost perfect! Thank you :)
    Running fine so far...
     
  3. Greg S

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    I'm trying to convert WFAS into WFC but I see that it has one drawback which keeps one from having better defined rules. WFC doesn't appear to allow for more than one rule for a particular app. Unless I'm missing something. You are using path to file name which as I see it, hinders one from specifying separate rules for UDP and TCP. This causes one to have to apply ANY for a particular said app. I agree there are only a few instances where this would be needed but the few are in my opinion critical apps such as Svchost and Windows Live Mail. Lol, did any of that make sense?

    Another thing along the same line, if a rule is created using a certain address or range, you will not get additional alerts. Antivirus updates may connect to a site within an allowed range but then connect to addtional addresses which in Learning Mode WFC would not catch and throw up an alert because the rule has already been previously defined.
     
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    It is working great,There seems to a minor problem.When you open advanced/about... the popup window remains open(vista 32 bit) and it cant be closed unless you exit.
     
  5. Broadway

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    Just klick inside the window.
    HTH :)
     
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    Worked.Thanks:)
     
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    Or "Esc"...

    :D
     
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    One thing the UI needs other than support for native and skinned themes is for the tray icon tooltips to not activate the customize tray icons when clicked. Just have it dismiss when clicked or add the Close X in the top right hand corner of the tooltip.

    I would also like the ability to copy the Remote address from the popup alert
     
  11. alexandrud

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    Please provide some screenshots of what you mean by "native and skinned themes". WFC doesn't look fine on your PC ?
    When you click on a tooltip of WFC, the tooltip disappear. On your computer, if you click on a WFC tooltip, it will bring up the "Customize the notification area icons" ?
    The last one will be done in the next version. :)
     
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    Yes it looks fine. Here's is how menus look on all other apps,

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    WFC menus the color and hover highlight is different

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    I read up on this at one time and if I'm not mistaken, you would have to include a manifest with your installer. Look at some other apps with Inspect Exe or ResHacker
     
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    The hover highlight is different here. I think it depends on the system theme.
    If I let the menu to use the system default, there will be no icons in the menu, that is why I choosed a different theme.
    The application already contains an embedded manifest file which tells to UAC how the file should be executed.
     
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    Ok, it's fine the way it is. How are the images stored for me, locally in .Net somewhere? I'm guessing they are not editable by me are they?
     
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    Is there a workaround for what I describe in post https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1966713&postcount=478

    As it stands now, WFC would have to be set to Any unless I am missing something. I know I can go into WFAS and adjust the rule but then if your rule mechanism changes again, then it's back to square one creating new rules.
     
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    The images are packed into the executable file.
    There is no workaround. Why don't you leave the rule to use ANY, which includes both TCP and UDP ? What are the chances that an application which usually uses these two connection protocols to use a different one which you would not like to be used ?

    Regarding the missing of aditional notifications for the programs which already have a rule, this is the main purpose. If WFC finds that there exists a rule, it will not show a new notification because it assumes that the user already configured the behaviour for this application. If not, you will finish by creating dozens of rules for the same program, for example svchost.exe.

    I recommend to always tweak your firewall rules with caution.

    Good news: I have already implemented two new functions.
    1. In the notification dialog, if the user clicks on the remote address, it will start the default internet browser which will do a whois lookup using http://networktools.nl
    2. Also, if the user clicks on the application icon, it will open the file Properties dialog for the executable file.

    And, more in the near future... :)
     
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    Thank you alexandrud, good news indeed. Latest version is working perfectly.:)
     
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    I'd like to agree with this post - I'm a tweaker and like to lock down where my apps can connect to as much as I can
    I don't mind at all if I have to have 20 rules for svchost - one rule per app is not my cup of tea.

    But fair play to the developer, it's a nice WFW control but finegrain control is not available so i continue to use Sphinx WFWC
     
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    I don't have a problem with multiple rules either. Trying once again after a restoration to convert all to WFC and I can't do it. To be fair though, WFAS is not the answer either. In WFAS you can't define multiple protocols so you have to have multiple rules. So, I tried Alex's advice to define Any for the two protocols UDP/TCP and guess what, I lose the ability within WFC to define address range. Address range leads to another question, is it possible with WFC to define multiple IP ranges? I don't think so which makes one have to use WFAS for this. Being that we have plenty of links to WFAS from within WFC is not a problem but having to use both still defeats my purpose of converting all over to WFC. So for now, I will continue to use WFC more or less for a monitoring tool rather than rule creation.

    Another tip for the GUI, make it where one can edit the tables inside of the manage rules dialog such as AppGuard does(post pictures if needed). Those row/column entries that are limited with options, make so that it drops down with the three available options to select from. Those that need editing such as Address/range, make the text clickable for editing. Not clickable in the sense that it would clear the field but highlight it for editing within the manager rules dialog table. The clicking of the rule and select modify from a button up top is too cumbersome. If that's not doable, right click entry in the table, select modify.

    One more request and I'm sure it's not doable but for now and since I will be using mostly WFAS for rule creation and editing it would be nice if you could make a condensed(light) version of WFC for monitoring purposes only. Yes, have options to open WFW, WFAS, popup alert with info and options to investigate address at network tools and the filtering options in the menu. I would be willing to pay again for a light version. I know that sounds like back tracking to some of the earlier versions of WFC and it is but I would like to have some of the up to date features added as mentioned, alert and clickable link to network tools but no need for rule creation etc.
     
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    Running latest version 3.0.1.4, fresh install in learning mode. Popups has suddenly stopped working, any ideas?
     
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    Maybe because it's in learning mode....?
     
  22. CGA

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    From Binsoft.org:
    Or am I completely missing something.
     
  23. JoeBlack40

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    Well,I certainly miss that one.:D
    It's time for someone who uses the paid version to reply,or the developer himself.
     
  24. Broadway

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    Just to be sure: You donated, received the activation key and activated WFC?
    After that you enabled learning mode. Notifications popped up and you created some rules. All of a sudden there are no more notifications when programs, that you did not define rules for before, try to enter the internet?

    Is it this way? Please provide some details.
     
  25. CGA

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    Yes, couldn't have described it better myself. It worked in the beginning but now I have to manually create new rules for apps that I want to allow access the internet. Every application is blocked without notification.
     
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