The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. Osaban

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    Amazing pegr, I thought I knew everything about SD (I've been using it since it was first created) it is good to know it can be done, even though to commit all changes really defies the very purpose of entering shadow mode, there could be some exceptional circumstances where it is useful to have this 'emergency full recovery'.
    I'm just thinking as an example a software that was successfully tested could be fully committed with this method without having to re-install it in normal mode. Thanks, great post.
     
  2. kjdemuth

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    THanks pegr. This is what I was looking for. Sometimes I forget that I'm in shadow mode or don't have time or want to bother rebooting to install something. Now I think I can try using SD in realtime again. I would rather use SD realtime than have a AV scanner running. Old habits die hard. I couldn't imagine using a computer without one. Now I realize that I really don't need one. Thanks for the information. :)
     
  3. LoneWolf

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    Thanks pegr. :D
    Very informative post. :thumb:
    Having used SD for a few years now I had not known this.
     
  4. CloneRanger

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    @ sdmod

    Thanks :thumb:

    @ zitzit

    Thanks :thumb:
     
  5. zitzit

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    Yesterday, i installed Avast Antivirus Free. For some reason (lack of digital signature?) it detects SD as a suspicious program and tries to autosandbox it. Besides SD's Program Folder, is there anything else (related file/driver?) that i should add to the exclusion list of Autosandbox?
     
  6. ichito

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    Which version of SD you have? If it's latest x331 I think you should reinstall it to 325 from link in this thread.
    When I have used Avast I have excluded all my security apps from autosandbox, protection and scanning. No sence to exclude Avast from SD protection.
     
  7. zitzit

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    I want to exclude SD from Avast, not the other way around.

    I'm using the .325 (23/2) version.
     
  8. Osaban

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    Hi, you should exclude in Avast, the following SD executables: Commit.exe, Defender.exe, Defender Daemon.exe.
     

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  9. ichito

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    Why only "exe" files? Is it not better to exclude all other files from folder of SD?
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\eula.rtf
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\Help.chm
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\res.ini
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\ShellExt.dll
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\Uninstall.exe
    C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\user.dat
     
  10. Osaban

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    I'm not trying to teach anything to anybody, that's what I exclude. You do it differently, that's fine with me.
     
  11. zitzit

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    My main concern was whether or not i should have also exlcuded

    C:\Windows\diskpt.dat
    C:\Windows\System32\drivers\diskpt.sys

    (i had already excluded C:\Program Files\Shadow Defender\*)

    BUT

    Since Autosandbox is triggered by .exe files, i followed Osaban's advice and it worked fine.

    Thank you both for the feedback.
     
  12. AlexC

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    Does anyone knows what files(s) to exclude to allow wallpaper changes?
    Running Windows 7 x64 ultimate.
    Thanks
     
  13. Athletic

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    Two questions:

    1. Does SD 1.1.0.325 works fine in Windows 7.
    I know that it should work, but does it work without problems ?

    2. All Firefox Bookmarks/Settings/Addons changes are Kept upon Reboots when you exclude this 2 folders in XP.
    Is something different in W7 ?

    --> C:\Documents and Settings\**userName**\Application Data\Mozilla
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    --> C:\Documents and Settings\**userName**\Local Settings\Application Data\Mozilla
     
  14. kjdemuth

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    1. Yes
    2. Maybe. I'm not sure about the add-on's. The bookmarks yes.
     
  15. twl845

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    I downloaded .331 on a new computer last May, and it's fine. :)
     
  16. Athletic

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    Thanks

    Does it work with Comodo HIPS ? If someone here has both.
     
  17. kjdemuth

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    Works great. I've been using it for a while.
     
  18. zitzit

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    I 've always been wondering...

    Is there any difference (security-wise) between entering Shadow Mode during a session and entering on boot?

    edit: ...besides removing any logger prior to an e-banking/shopping/etc. activity.
     
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  19. pegr

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    Entering Shadow Mode automatically at boot time has the advantage of keeping the system permanently virtualized, which is both a convenient and secure way of operating the computer, only manually exiting Shadow Mode in order to apply software updates.

    The alternative is to use Shadow Mode on demand only. Once Shadow Mode has been entered manually, all changes that take place from that point onwards will be discarded at shutdown or reboot, so in terms of the protection while in Shadow Mode there is no difference between the two methods.
     
  20. zitzit

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    Thank you, pegr.
     
  21. Arcanez

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    is it possible to lock the desktop tip of shadow defender in one place and also make it appear exactly in the middle of the screen? Like upper border of the screen middle position like it is as the standard position ?

    the standard position is kinda bad when you have many tabs open in your web browser because those tabs appear in the background of the desktop tip if you know what I mean.

    I definitely want to keep the desktop tip but I want to change it's position to bottom border of the screen above the taskbar but in the exact middle of it...

    Can this only be done by exactly moving the desktop tip by yourself ? Or can it be locked somehow in the middle and also fix it to this position so you can not move it by accident?

    Also I aksed before but haven't gotten an answer....Is shadow defender compatible with SSD drives?
     
  22. AaLF

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    I have my HDD divided into CDrive plus 2 Data partitions.

    4 convinience its easier to just 'shadow' the C Drive as there are so many different folders to 'save to' in the Data partitions.

    How necessary is it to place the data partitions into Shadow mode?
     
  23. pegr

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    I have a separate data partition and I don't normally virtualize it. The system partition is the one that needs protection the most.

    As you have been asking about AppGuard in another thread, it's worth pointing out that AppGuard prevents application launches from non-system partitions, so if you are using AppGuard you are covered there as well.

    My Firefox profile is held on the data partition and about the only time I sometimes place the data partition in Shadow Mode is if I decide I want to lock the profile when surfing the web. As non-system partitions can exit Shadow Mode without needing a reboot, this is easy and convenient to do.
     
  24. AaLF

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    Hi Pegr,

    I see you are across both products. Here a short insight into my situation. I'm leaning towards Shadow Defender. If I dont decide between SD & AppGd soon I wont have too as I'm becoming attached to SD.:-*

    So...
    I have XP, Admin Acct, SBiE, LnS FW. I feel a bit underdone with only SBiE but I am the only user of my PC at home and I dont venture into dangerous waters.

    So I just want something to compliment SBiE to make me feel good. Shadow Defender seems so easy & understandable. In the very short go I had with App Guard, it seemed more constrictive especially as I can't help toying with stuff on 30 day trials. Habit or hobby?

    Will Appguard be as easy to wield under that lifestyle? I'm starting to doubt now that SD has started to snuggle up to me.

    What say you guys?
     
  25. Osaban

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    Hi pegr,
    this is the second time you are supplying information about SD that I didn't even know was possible in years of use. I don't have partitioned drives on my notebooks, but I can see some situations whereby exiting shadow mode without a reboot can be useful e.g. when using USB drives. Thanks a lot for sharing, you really have a thorough knowledge about SD (I'm also impressed by your explanations of AppGuard in another thread).
     
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