Adobe Flash 11 final with Linux support

Here are some links I've just found to explain.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2172626/how-can-html5-replace-flash
http://nabanet.org/html5-and-flash-why-flash-is-here-to-stay.html

There are a lot of reasons that HTML5 won't be the Flash killer people think.

 

HTML5 is not out yet. HTML6 isn't even being thought about yet probably, in the very likely 15 years or so before HTML5 is "here", the web may look nothing like it does now. I agree very much that bickering over who supports what will hold it back. I'm very much convinced that we'll face the 90s again in regards to that. I'm not sure what Hulu and other websites have to do with the advance or stagnation of a specification The easiest way to destroy your web business is hang on to tech no one else is using anymore...seen any extraordinarily popular RealPlayer websites lately? Yes, I realize that's not the best example when talking about the next web standard, but you probably get my point.

Actually, HTML5 can accomplish more than Flash has. But it has a long way to go. As for Java, it will be replaced as well. Hungry, we're talking about technology here. There are already better languages than Java, and there certainly will be in the future. Tech stagnation is due largely to unwillingness to spend money and laziness (the "if it works, why change it?" crowd...which is a very, very large percentage of web developers out there). It's very rare that the reason is there is nothing better to replace it with.

Edit: Your top link seems to prove my point about laziness if you go by the comments Your second link puts out far more thoughtful and understandable limitations. But, again, we're 15 years or so away from the "moment of truth", and in that time, a lot can change.

 

HTML5 is out. It's just not standardized.

No, I don't think HTML5 can accomplish more than Flash can. In terms of webgames it doesn't seem likely, as you can read in the links above.

HTML5 has a long way to go and by the time HTML6 comes out we'll certainly see huge change in Flash. Flash is great because Flash 12 is likely already under way or at least not super far off. HTML6 is going to be a decade at least.

 

Web games are going to be difficult, but, it's not hopeless http://html5games.com/ HTML6 will be a lot longer than a decade, heck, that's when HTML5 will be getting closer to being standardized, meaning more will be willing to make the conversion to it. Browsers, however, are going to have to stop this nonsense of supporting one part but not another.

 

Btw I Know HTML5 wont replace flash overnight. flash >HTML5 shouldnt be to hard. Adobe has a labs release of a product which converts flash to HTML5.
I only use flash player for the purpose of playing videos and sometimes flash games. so in my case it shouldn't be to long until I can remove flash player.

 

If it somehow replaces it within the decade I'll be shocked.

 

I just tried to install the flashplugin-installer from synaptic & it still is the 32-bit version. I am on Ubuntu 64-bit. I was using the ppa from seven machines until I read this thread. If you check the dependencies it still requires & installs ia32-libs & nspluginwrapper. It's still 32-bit on my machine. I already had ia32-libs installed so it did not prompt for that but it did for the wrapper.

So is the link from adobe from op a true 64-bit plugin?

Edit:
Adobe.com does indeed install the 64-bit version, thx guys! Synaptic's version still on 32-bit.

 

No, you have to install the package adobe-flashplugin (NOT flashplugin-installer) from Synaptic - and it's definitely 64bit.

 

I got it from Adobe's site which in turn opened up the software center & installed adobe-flashplayer, thx! True 64-bit!

 

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/flash-ubuntu-64-install-easily-1110/

Apparently, there won't be a need for an additional ppa in 11.10.

 

Flash x64 is already in Natty repos so no ppa or Flash Aid needed.

 

Bodhi: "Don't believe me? Just take a look at the many popular flash based services that are moving away from the stale technology. Two such examples of this are the music streaming service Pandora (which is now fully HTML5)"

 

Direct links (in case anyone's interested): http://techdows.com/2011/10/flash-player-11-offline-installer.html

I may try WaterFox later.

 

Easy, uninstall it. No more flash.

Or are the browser manufacturers colluding intentionally slowing down the standardization of HTML5 by throwing wrenches into the gears supporting a delayed demise of flash. Hmm?

Then they will be left on the side of the road like BlockBuster. C-ya BB. (Motor revving, tires screech loudly, quickly lost into the distance. Smoke covering and pebbles hitting BB)

I can live without it. Websites can't. I win.

Bite your tongue!

So you are more optimistic than dw426.

32bit flash isn't listed at Adobe in a tarball anymore, must be in the repositories.