Norton Launches 2012 Products

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by malexous, Sep 7, 2011.

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  1. qakbot

    qakbot Registered Member

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    Stop attacking people's comments if you have nothing to add. Are you saying he did not bypass IPS, Download Insight and other layers by doing what he did. He test is about as dumb as the old fashioned scan-a-million-malware-samples in-a-directoy test aka VB100 :)

    I hope Norton takes legal action against languy99 what is pure slander and mis-information.
     
  2. King Grub

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    It's a discussion forum - "attacking" comments should be okay? It's attacking persons that should be a no-no.

    Symantec will probably be looking into it, but not by any lawsuits, but by the way they should act: looking into the failure and to see if there is a bug in the program. They admit they didn't detect it and there is nothing to be done if the malware gets admin access:

    http://community.norton.com/t5/Nort...-about-NIS-2012-efficiency/td-p/531218/page/2

    Maybe, but a fail is a fail. No matter how the virus gets access to the system, the security program needs to have ways to block it. Simply sticking a USB stick into the computer bypasses the layers you mention. And as I am sure you know, more often than not, users need protection from themselves as much or more than from malware.
     
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  3. xandros

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    thank you , i already download it and install it and its light and fast on my computer, but i think when i open facebook the box of the names whos online its take time until its open
     
  4. ellison64

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    Well lets be honest my old granny is very unlikely to go to malc0de or wherever and download a zipped folder of rootkits and malware and execute them to see what happens,so im sure NIS and many other avs will provide adequate protection,Its people like us who frequent security forums ,that need protection from ourselves :rolleyes:
     
  5. Coccinelle

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    I have 3 credit cards and i want to put all my information on secure place like Norton Identity Safe.The toolbar be protect all my cards and i can sleep bether.How is lovely,Norton care about me.:eek: :D
     
  6. Victek

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    Now that Symantec is providing encrypted cloud storage for Identity Safe so it can be synced across multiple computers it's a viable alternative to last pass. I don't think they offer two factor authentication though, which is really much better for sensitive transactions, such as online banking, and Lastpass does.
     
  7. ExtremeGamerBR

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    Ignoring all this silly discussion about the protection of Norton - we all know that is excellent. I've been asking about a possible bug:

    It is the second time in five days what happens: After rebooting my computer, I try to access my login Identity Safe and is as "vanish" my settings. I have to login (Norton Account) again into my account for him to access my logins.

    Has this happened to anyone else this?
     
  8. shadek

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    Yes, it occurred for me this morning for the first time!
     
  9. ExtremeGamerBR

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    Thank you!

    I came to this strange bug with the NIS. Always performed so well and free of any hassle.

    Another thing I noticed - I do not know if the problem is NIS or Sandboxie - is that if I try to access a malicious link that is considered to Norton - eg spycar.org - Chrome sandboxed (With Sandboxie) some times it blocks, others not. This only happens with Chrome, FF and IE are free of it.
     
  10. Coccinelle

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    I download Avast to try it and Norton Inside (NIS) start to scan the file.He don't stop to scan and make my system hot.I got to reboot and everything stop.That is the bugg i'm sure.I run a Windows x64 bit.Enybody have this bugg?
     
  11. ExtremeGamerBR

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    I have no problem:

    Sem t?tulo.jpg

    Windows 7 SP1 x64 - NIS 2012 - Mozilla Firefox 6.0.2

    Sorry but my Windows is in PT-BR.
     
  12. ellison64

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    I haven't experienced this on my windows 7 64 bit machine.NIS scans avast set-up file in seconds .Do you use any other security software that maybe scanning it at the same time?
     
  13. Coccinelle

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    No Just NIS!!!
    I don't now why make this with Avast 2 times.
    IE 9 i use with Smart Screen.o_O

    ...p.s.My be Smart Screen do something !!!
     
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  14. ExtremeGamerBR

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    I bring good news!

    I realized that this problem occurs with the Identity Safe is only when the browser opens shortly after startup. So, if I open the browser about 15 seconds after my desktop appears I have no problem.

    The second problem, I really do not know.
     
  15. mvdu

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    I thank LANGuy for bringing this to our attention. If it is a bug, then it can be fixed. If not, well it's up to every individual to decide if they trust their security.
     
  16. qakbot

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    Everyone thinks they are smarter than the security companies, the guys that do this for a living. You seriously think Symantec and other companies treat exes run from a local directory that was created before the product was installed, the same as those run from a USB or other removable device when they know how AutoRun malware works o_O? There is a huge different in the risk associated with these two types of exes and they will be treated by any heuristic system, especially something as advanced as SONAR very very differently.

    Languy makes the same lame argument in his video, he doesn't know ~ Snipped as per TOS ~ about how security products work.

    Frankly I dont know why we are even giving this guy any keyboard time, he is after all just making commerials for his beloved ~ Snipped as per TOS ~ aka Commode aka Comodo. Such reviews just ~ Snipped as per TOS ~.

    I however dont buy the argument that this is "just one review" and thats why it can be ignored by Norton. I think Norton should and will look at *every* failed review provided its done by a credible entity.

    I have had some PMs with some of the Norton admins. They have many people looking at that video and there is nothing actionable in there - it is NOT reproducible, there are no log files or other test documents, no samples, they dont know which specific exe compromised the system, LG99 kept on testing, so any subsequent could have been missed because by that time NIS had already been disabled, there are no hashes and worse of all the test methodology was all wrong.
     
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  17. mvdu

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    Agree to disagree with you 100%.
     
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  18. stratoc

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    If languy or whoever enjoys doing this, hey it's a free world. I think most people would take av comparitives etc as a proper guide. There are virus that can rape any anti virus if you look for them, nothing is going to keep everything out, they should be viewed as an extra form of security, my gaming pc has never had anything but stand alone scanners, a nat router and a limited account.
    10 minutes with any anti virus I bet I can find something that by passes, removes, locks it up, surely this is no big shock to anyone?
     
  19. Kernelwars

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    This is very disgusting the way you showing disrespect against Comodo. If you dont like something sure its your choice but calling names to individuals and companies is not fair IMHO. The reviewers try to point out how any security app is actually going to be in case you planning on going with them or spend your money on them. Credible entity is also some very big words used. The big entities dont bother showing regular folks what really happened we have to trust their numbers but due to some reviewers we are actually viewing the malware scenario, resource usage, how softwares can protect an already infected system etc. :eek:
     
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  20. Nevis

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    NO disregard to any AV
    BUT
    I do feel that such amateur test done by carious individual are of NO use. Please be intellectual enough to understand that testing an AV is not that simple as it sounds.

    Proper methodology, quality of samples and there are so many imp factors.

    Pls see only trusted sources such as AV-C , VB100 and AV tests.
     
  21. Kernelwars

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    IMO though when somebody gets infected out off blue the malware doesnt wait to see proper ways to infect it..It tries to infect somehow so I think security products should indeed be ready for those circumstances. Proper methodology, quality of samples and the other factors that are kept in consideration while testing a security product becomes invalid IMO when it meets malwares and infections that doesnt implement on the so called methodology etc..
     
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    You can tell your buddies at Symantec that languy99 has put up a new video in which the rootkit that disabled NIS 2012 is clearly identified and explored in the context of a test of Comodo against the same malware as used in the NIS video. The rootkit was submitted to Virus Total.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/languy99#p/u/0/Y8X2yovM6AQ
     
  25. Victek

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    I see this as the real problem with the test, and with this thread. None of us really know what we're looking at in that video. It's not possible to have a clear discussion about it. That's not stopping us though :) For a group that has such a strong interest in security you'd think we would demand higher standards.
     
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