Puran Defrag Free Version 7.3

Sorry friend, but my paging file is 16 MB. I also don't have hibernation, restore points or other unmovable files that are of that large scale. So obviously it must be something else, but that something else is unknown. Like I mentioned earlier, the image from Puran also showed those yellow blocks scattered all over when my partition was larger and I had already done the boot-time defrag etc. Why could cause it to occupy that much space is beyond me.

 

What's your OS? XP?

 

maybe those are usn journals?

 

Windows 7 x64

I thought it may have been the journals, so I went by JKDefrag's tip of recreating it by running this command:
fsutil usn deletejournal /n c:

That together with wiping the MTF free space in CCleaner seemed to have free up some blocks, but it's still messy. Curious, I tried 4 other defragglers including Contig from MS, and they all indicate that the metadata and MTF were already defragged. It's also interesting to note that they each had their own cluster map, but all showed them as contiguous! Only Puran shows otherwise.

-Defraggler shows the beige as pagefile, purple as MTF

-JkDefrag shows it as pink area near the top

-Auslogics shows the purple MTF at the top and bottom

So the conclusion is I don't know which one to trust. Each one has their own graphical depiction .

 

Try UltimateDefrag.

 

Here's Ultimate Defrag's analysis. Looking good . Yellow is the space reserved for MFT. So far it seems Puran has a different opinion . I recall several months ago it wasn't as ugly looking in Puran, so what went wrong.

 

Puran's view does seem strange when compared with the others. Perhaps you've found a bug?

 

Probably a bug, but Puran did a good job of defragmenting.

 

I'm re-enabling the so-called infamous PIOZR option after so long and re-defragging / re-organizing the file placement right now. It seems like it's slowly but surely consolidating the yellows to be continguous, at least at the top. Still ugly, but better than before. Will post a screenshot when it's done.

 

Won't you see a better job by doing a boot defrag?

 

I did both, first within Windows then outside. I give up Unless someone else with the same OS and has the same problem, I can't really report it as a bug as it's difficult to describe.

 

Well, do not want to push, but defragging with about 10% of space left on your HDD is pure waste of time. Period. If you insist on keeping insanely small OS partition, you can uninstall whatever defrag utils you have and move on.

 

Your UD view shows that the partition is perfectly defragged by Puran, that's all that should matter. Just send an email to Puran support and give a pointer to this thread, they're usually quick to respond.

 

Thanks Sadeghi85. I did as you suggested.

 

Is Puran Defrag a good tool? I've always paid for defragmenters (O&O Defrag 14 right now, but have used Diskeeper and PerfectDisk in the past). How does it compare to the bigger ones? Thanks.

 

It has the most feature of any free defragmenters, and more than some paid ones as well. The free version is identical with the paid, except that it's only for personal use.

 

it compares very well.
Puran Defrag Free is the same as their licensed/commercial version.

not only is it very good but AFAIK it is the only free defragger that defrag system files at boot time.

 

So is it a waste essentially to buy a $30-$50 defragger with something like Puran for free?

 

i think so.

but some people might have other opinions.
especially defrager developers/vendors.

 

Note that Puran Defrag was once commercial. They suddenly decided to make it freeware for personal use one day .

BTW, here is Puran Support's reply:
"Metadata is not a single file but there can be any number of metadata files on your drive. Since the report is showing 0% fragmentation, you do not need to worry. These are probably different metadata files scattered around your disk. They may or may not be contiguous just like any other set of files."

 

Code:

"Defraggler has a Boot-Time Defrag option which allows you to defrag
files that are normally locked by the [B]Operating System[/B]
before the [B]operating system[/B] is fully loaded."

The Boot-Time Defrag of Defraggler covers ONLY
the Page File and System Files located in C:\Windows\System32\config

The same stands for IObit SmartDefrag:
Only MFT, Hibernation file, Pagefile, and 'C:\Windows\System32\config' files.
Only System files; not All files.

On the contrary, Puran can defrag ALL Files during Boot-Time.

 

But didn't Puran have a bug that deletes system restore files when a boot defrag was done on a drive? Or is this a windows bug? In any case, if this is true then boot defrag isn't advisable no?

 

this happens with many defraggers when moving system files at boot time.

 

As much as this issues ~Phrase removed~ as well, the simple fact is, that this is NOT a "bug" of any software. It is really a design problem.

The issue/fact is that the restore points (VSS, etc.) are snapshots or essentially images/photos of the disk layout and contents. When you do a boot time defrag or the system and the restore point files are moved on the disk to a new location, it is WINDOWS that see that they have moved and are therefore "gone" and so they are removed from the system. It is more so a "feature" than a bug as it were.

Other threads will show how much I have worked/requested help on this issue but in the end, this is the fact ... it is Microsoft that has to change how the system functions to not allow loss of restore points for boot-time defrag and so on.

Any defragger that moves the files about this will thus be "deleted" by Windows. Having 16 KB or bigger clusters DO NOT have any protective effect for boot-time defrag either.

The information about this issue is deceptive and misunderstood.

But, in the end, it still ~Phrase removed~ .