The unofficial Shadow Defender Support Thread.

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Feb 14, 2011.

  1. crapbag

    crapbag Registered Member

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    Hey all,

    I've posted in this thread earlier that I was trying out SD. For what it's worth I've just bought a license and successfully activated the program. It's probably all automated but part of me just wanted to see if it worked :). I'm running 1.1.0.325. Still not sure about updating.
     
  2. Meriadoc

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    Mm, what to do if you want to buy SD? Personally I'd recommend waiting and see what happens.
     
  3. Triple Helix

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    No I don't have a reason to update from .325 but I thought I will give it a try to see what happens!

    TH
     
  4. Osaban

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    What I've really meant was whether there are some changes within the updated version .331 .
     
  5. Triple Helix

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    I can't see anything new and there is no change log!

    TH
     
  6. skokospa

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    If we consider this your post https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1853337&postcount=143

    You probably know something we do not know...am I right!?

    and you will not tell us!
    or you will not tell us what you know or our misleading ......
    on the basis of which confirm that the .331 version of the original and legal ....based on digital signature?
     
  7. Triple Helix

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    I don't see Microsoft anywhere?

    TH

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  8. CloneRanger

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    Confirm ? official ? How so ?
     
  9. LoneWolf

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    "Confirm" How o_O
     
  10. Cutting_Edgetech

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    Exactly! There is no change log! Change log= Trojan added Lol Just Kidding, but halfway serious. I really have no reason to update. SD 1.1.0.325 does everything I need it to. Maybe they only updated the license, and literature to .331, and that's why they have not released a change log. Not releasing one is only adding to the bad business practices they have already demonstrated. I was hopping to see someone found to be in violation of copyright laws, and see them shut down for trying to make a profit off of something that was not theres, but it looks like maybe SD has been acquired by someone else. All I can do is wait for the news, and maybe send some complaints to Avangate, and see what happens.
     
  11. sdmod

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    You claim this version is official, can you please substantiate your claims.
    I had a number of "in the know" "I know Tony" claims over the time Tony has been missing as mod of the Shadow Defender forum and none of them turned into anything substantial. If this version and new sites are "official" then there are a lot of questions to be answered once the owner surfaces.

    1) Why have we been left in the dark for many months without any clue as to what is going on?

    2)Why have the mods been left with the responsibility of giving some form of support and running the forum without explanation, apology or help from the person who has (presumably) benefitted financially from sales?

    3) Why have the usership, forum members, purchasers and potential puchasers of Shadow Defender not received the support they deserve over an extended period of time?

    4) Isn't it financially detrimental to the business to allow an unstable situation to arise like this for a piece of security software leaving everyone in absolute confusion and hanging on for diverse bits of gossip, rumour and conjecture?

    5) If it is legitimate, how can you just re-introduce the software without explanation or fanfare and expect the usership to have any confidence in it?

    I find this "I know what's going on because I am an insider with the developer but "I can't tell" or "I am sworn to silence" sort of post intensly irritating, it's usually the kind of behaviour we see from "Trolls".

    If you have information please lets have it without all the coquettish posturing.






     
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  12. Acadia

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    Patrick, thank you. :thumb: :cool:

    Acadia
     
  13. hany3

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    me ? troll?
    i wonder how many times u chatted with tony on his private msn account ? do u even know his private emails?
    did u even talk to him or even know him before 2007 ?
    do u even know his fathers name or how old is tony ?

    i know it's hard for u being x-moderator on the forum and actually knows nothing about what's going on

    i shared all of u what i can say
    the change log together with the official signing of the shadow defender driver diskpt.sys , and u might know how tony really wanted that even before thinking about developing the x64 version which requires a different kind of Microsoft signing

    but remember that calling me a "troll" won't force me to break a promise i made

    now u and any other shadow defender user has the right to believe or not what i said about this version

    but neither u nor any one else has the right to call me a troll for providing something i know and not providing something else

    again this version is official , this version is clean , this version is the 1st version in shadow defender history to have DIGITALLY SIGNED DRIVERS

    that's all what i can say , believe it or don't believe a word , u have all the rights to do that

    N.B some of the information i posted included the fact that the driver become digitally signed , and that was 1st mentioned here "according to what i was told", isn't that a proof that i wasn't "trolling" here ?

    anyway i deleted my previous posts here
    as i think posting in this thread wasn't the right decision
     
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  14. 3x0gR13N

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    @hany3
    Sorry, but until you provide actual proof of what you're claiming people have full rights to not believe you.
    Calling you a troll may be wrong, but so is your "if you don't want to believe me it's your problem" statement as it just brings further discomfort to SD users who've been in the dark for so long.
    Digital signature is worth cr4p and proves nothing.
     
  15. huntnyc

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    @hany3,
    I would not call you troll or anything else for that matter. But, you must understand that all members here are simply asking for verfiable evidence that any professional software company is obligated to provide so that its customer base might be assured of its good intentions and good standing especially after Tony has been MIA all these months. You should understand that anyone would need more evidence than just someone saying that this is so.

    If you are directly invovled and have information only known to you and are confidentially bound, then I can understand your conflict but none of this helps customers who have purchased or desire to purchase one of the best security products created to date.

    Gary
     
  16. TerryWood

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    Hi Hany3

    I have been following this thread with interest. I am absolutely astonished that you have got yourself into this mess of communications.

    You advertise yourself as a cardiologist, if so, you are no stranger to training, as well as making and issuing statements based on fact.

    Here you present half baked assertions which would have been better not made particularly if you have made a promise to Tony not to disclose information.

    Yes I agree with the others posters, NOT that you are troll, that was just plain rude and stupid, but you have indulged in titillatory comment without any means of proving it. And you are a professional Cardiologist who modus operandi should be above this kind of silly behaviour.

    Tony or his representative should be the one that speaks about his product/marketing and future plans not you. You do him no service at all.

    Terry
     
  17. hunkiller

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    Hello all. I'm an user of Shadow Defender and I'm very curious about Tony's disappearance and all the mystery surrounding it. I have installed the new version 1.1.0.331 (setup md5: EAABEEFA1E8E740D027210F70A606584) and compared it against the old beta 1.1.0.326 (setup md5: 2E676853ED629B91F8310F832940FD44) which resided on my hdd since 10.05.2010. What is certain, is that the new version was compiled from original source code. There are few changes to the executables and the driver, but these seems legit. I didn't notice anything suspicious so far. Additionally the driver is now digitally signed by "Star SoftComm (China) Ltd". No doubts this whole situation is weird, but that really makes me think that SD was actually acquired by some other company.
     
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  18. Meriadoc

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    Hi hany3 :)

    you probably shouldn't have said anything and left it to the owner - should have it been left to you?..it just all adds to the intrigue unfortunately until something official is said. - If I'm ever taken into confidence say test some software I never let on anything - no detail, no screen shot, no inkling I even have something.
     
  19. Acadia

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    When people spend their hard earned bucks on a product they have a right to know it is still legit.

    Yes, MAYBE Tony simply did what so many others have done in the past: a company made him a great $ offer and he sold it to them. I would not blame him for that, I would have done the same thing. He made an excellent product, an outfit in China might have noticed. What is weird is that unlike other products that get sold, and we have seen this here at Wilders, the person who created that program is allowed to come back to forums and say so, tell folks what has happened ... but we are dealing with China here. That is not a bigoted statement, I just don't know how companies who have been used to communism for so many years actually operate over there. Actually I hope that is what happened because that would mean that Tony is ok.

    Acadia
     
  20. sdmod

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    I did not call you a Troll
    "it's usually the kind of behaviour we see from "Trolls"." is what I said.
    I don't care if you've known Tony since he was two years old and have spoken to him every minute of his life, know all his innermost private secrets, know his dad, his grandad, his great grandad and all his relatives back to the beginning of time, really, I'm not interested, this is not a juvenile "I know Tony the bestest" competition. As I've said from the outset, I am simply a mod on the Shadow Defender forum.
    If you know him well, ask him to post something on here to explain his actions (or lack of them)...one small post to any forum would suffice. Nobody here is asking him to jump through hoops...just give us some sort of clue as to what is going on. He has been supported very well here and most posts have been positive and wish him the best.
    What we are talking about here is how someone conducts themselves in business. Please don't think that I want you to break any confidence or pact with Tony but he has been absent a long time without explanation or apology and "I know Tony" posts without substance at this stage are not that helpful.

    Patrick (Shadow Defender Global Moderator)


     
  21. dw426

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    Hany3, don't take things personally. You have to look at it from the point of view of the mods at ShadowDefenders' forum who have desperately tried to keep things going and keep things sane, and, of the users who have basically been left in the dark here. First Tony pulls a Houdini, not only vanishing from users, but from his own team members (mods and such), without a word for months. The project starts looking like an old car left to rot in a field, and then, out of the blue, it looks like somebody has stolen the thing, including the domain (you can read about that here as well). Not only do the mods and users deal with those situations, now we suddenly have a brand new version out, with no warning or word from anyone, mods are seemingly getting locked out. Then we have the digital signing issue, which isn't a Microsoft signature, and then you show up talking about knowing Tony, having private conversations with him, and all this stuff.

    What kind of reception were you expecting, hugs, a big cake and a sing-a-long? I can't quite blame you though, though the way you came in was not the smartest way to show up. People claiming things without irrefutable proof here get torched. Honestly, if nothing at all was ever wrong with Tony, and he didn't have issues communicating with the team or users, then I'm ready to call him the bad seed in this. However, I accuse no one of anything yet, as I am completely on the outside looking in.
     
  22. LiLCruz

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    Hey guys why does shadow defender installer sdmod provided have malware because I scanned with virus total got malware hits The Hacker 6.7.0.1 v00094 2010-12-01

    Trojan/Downloader.Banload.bcjo*, VBA32 3.12.14.2 20101203.1003 2010-12-03 TrojanDownloader.Banload.bdxt, Sophos 4.60.0 2010.12.03 Sus/Scribble-B Is this some sort of false positive?
     
  23. moontan

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    where did you download it from and what is the version of Shadow Defender?
     
  24. LiLCruz

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    From sdmod post and SD1.1.0.320
     
  25. minasmwl

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    shadow defender 1.1.0.325 shows the same result
    one +ve result from one scanner out of total 41 virus scanners that shows a clean file indicates a false positive result especially when it's picked by a"non-famous" scanner
     
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