MRG Flash Tests 2011

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by LODBROK, Jan 27, 2011.

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  1. nosirrah

    nosirrah Malware Fighter

    And you honestly think 23,000 tells you something about 0day performance? Unless those 23,000 under 24 hours old all that tells you is how well a vendor defines legacy samples which to me, is nothing more than marketing BS.

    Personally I'd like to see a mix of both worlds as in 1000 samples a day where the MD5 did not exist before that day. That aggregated over time would likely change some minds.
     
  2. NAMOR

    NAMOR Registered Member

    At what point does the the BB jump into action? If the A2/Ikarus engine(s) see the potential threat first will the BB have time to intercept anything? It would be interesting to have Mamutu included in the new round of tests.
     
  3. atomomega

    atomomega Registered Member

    Wow! really? oh well...
    yeah right...
    Mamutu does not 'detect' malware per se, instead, it blocks malware after-execution based on behavioural patterns. So a comparison against signature detection would be pretty much unfair.
     
  4. BoerenkoolMetWorst

    BoerenkoolMetWorst Registered Member

    Yes, I asked Sveta a while ago to include Mamutu and Threatfire in the testing and he replied that they would like to add them soon but they're very busy.
     
  5. NAMOR

    NAMOR Registered Member


    That's my point. I believe that the real-time scanner (w/ sigs) makes the first interception, then the BB double checks afterward or checks is their isn't a signature. I could be wrong.

    Why? AFAIK Defensewall has 0 sigs and according to Zemana's site they don't rely on sigs either (at least not in the traditional sense).


    I guess this thread got me thinking about EAM's detections.


    http://support.emsisoft.com/topic/3462-strange-detection/page__p__20003#entry20003
     
  6. BoerenkoolMetWorst

    BoerenkoolMetWorst Registered Member

    The abysmal results of PCtools AV + Spyware doctor are not influenced by Threatfire, the behavior blocker is off in default settings
    Thanks, nice thread, didn't know about that.
    Still, MRG does a on demand scan before executing the sample so this wouldn't negatively influence the results.
     
  7. NAMOR

    NAMOR Registered Member

    Yeah, it just got me thinking about when the BB activates. :D
     
  8. J_L

    J_L Registered Member

    Defensewall and Zemana doesn't detect malware either. In fact, MRG includes a HIPS, Behavior Blockers, Anti-Loggers section.

    Mamutu shouldn't be added though, because Emsisoft Anti-Malware already includes it.
     
  9. NAMOR

    NAMOR Registered Member

    Safe'n'sec would be an interesting addition.
     
  10. Francis93

    Francis93 Registered Member

    It seems that they stopped testing?
     
  11. atomomega

    atomomega Registered Member

    Yeah, I forgot about those. Sorry guys. Eitherway, why is it that they compare signature based products against BB, HIPS in the same test?
     
  12. J_L

    J_L Registered Member

    I think it's a test of how well security programs protect you from zero-day malware, regardless of what methods they use.

    Maybe the threat should be moved to other anti-malware software section.
     
  13. Zimzi

    Zimzi Registered Member

    And you honestly think that we should believe MRG testing results rather than own experience with testing Vipre? In my personal experience, Vipre has excellent detection, but, even with malware that is easy to find on the Internet, Vipre is equally efficient as shown by the MRG testing results with 0-day malware !? It is not logical to me.

    Seems that Vipre is top-notch against keyloggers, or 0-day generally but it is not so good against common malware as would be expected based on MRG results?
     
  14. Thankful

    Thankful Savings Monitor

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  15. BoerenkoolMetWorst

    BoerenkoolMetWorst Registered Member

  16. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

    Once again, MBAM handles their business quite well,
    and SAS doesn't.
    MBAM and SAS.jpg
     
  17. LethalBoy

    LethalBoy Registered Member

    SAS is taking a beatin :(... but look at Sunbelt they are working very well on VIPRE :D
     
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  18. The Hammer

    The Hammer Registered Member

    o_O Not sure what you mean here as all malware was once 0-day?
     
  19. LethalBoy

    LethalBoy Registered Member


    I think he pretended to say that Vipre is good detecting 0 day malware but not as good with common malware ''malware that is detected by various AV's''. That's what I think he said o_O
     
  20. G1111

    G1111 Registered Member

    DW blocked them all:thumb:
     
  21. Page42

    Page42 Registered Member

    Can someone provide the link to the overall product comparison, showing results of all 9 (I think) tests?
     
  22. Blues7

    Blues7 Registered Member

  23. Rompin Raider

    Rompin Raider Registered Member

  24. The Hammer

    The Hammer Registered Member

    I see that a few products that were in a deficit position have now pulled even.
     
  25. blasev

    blasev Registered Member

    Well done emsisoft, and also congrats to avira

    Mbam and deswall is awoesome
     
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