My personal experience with Kaspersky Internet Security 2011

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  1. xxJackxx

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    Quite anxious to see it. I hope for it to not be so green this year. :D
     
  2. oliverjia

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    I know kaspersky is going down even without using its product for more than 3 years even since I found out the iswift issue. I do NOT like the fact that they write object identifiers to every single file on your computer without your knowledge at all. Then after this fact was pointed out, kaspersky made up some dumb excuses and keep doing the same thing.
    I realize it will be going down because kaspersky deos NOT listen to what people are complaining. Once you lost respect to your customers, then you will be ditched by your customer, because kaspersky is NOT the must-have av but the people at kaspersky think it is. WHAT A SHAME.
     
  3. Kernelwars

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    :D that is indeed true my good friend.. and kaspersky makes users believe that the only reason they have the pc is to install this monster and watch it all day.. cannot frankly compute when this monster is in ur system and eating up the resources :argh:
     
  4. DVD+R

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    Ive noticed that only a few month into the new year9 say for instance this year 2011, and previous years) Kaspersky launch the next years verrsion,:rolleyes: doesn't this make you wonder if they know that they have stuffed up,and are desperate to rectify ito_O Anyway thats my perceptive, I bought a 2 year licence back in 2009 and used it maybe a day, it was so bad at slowing things down, I thought I was using Windows Millennium again :p
     
  5. sm1

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    Iswift data is wriiten in ADS of a file. Right? But after uninstall I could not find any ADS in any files. I use adsr tool from eset. But what I find is iswift.dat file in system volume information which I delete using a linux live CD.

    Regarding the missed keylogger, was it digitally signed? If so settings in application control which trusts digitally signed software should be disabled.

    Internet slowdown happens to me too when I use wi-fi to connect my laptop to router. But no such slowdown in desktop connected to router by ethernet.
     
  6. blasev

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    I use kaspersky for 5 years, its light enough, unless u go for full scan.

    Regarding the protection : its definetly not the best for now, often I saw norton/fsecure/gdata beat kasperky score in av test by minor difference.
    Nevertheless KIS gave me 'enough' protection (combined with SS )

    I must agree that it has to improve by A lot.
    kaspersky does not have "the edge" anymore
    For now I'll continue to use it... And feel save with many OD scanner to help me ;)
    If the 2012 version does not improve, I'll ditch it for good :D
     
  7. Nevis

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    hmm.. thats a surprise .. i never thought so many people would turn against Kaspersky ... when i opened this topic i though that many would be against this that one person experience does not judge the product

    i do not agree with firewall issue as i did not experience any slowdown of net speed but yeah ,,, i do feel dragged a bit since its quite resource demanding
     
  8. EternalFunction

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    Still have KIS that will expires next month...not really liking it, and "tons" of issues, even during installations it doesn't like few of the "tools" like spybot s&d and must have to remove it, tho i installed it anyway.

    i hate it when especially wanted to install something..the system became bit unresponsive, before kaspersky jumps out and warning the user if want to allow it or not.

    it used to be lightest suite around, but not now :(
     
  9. Boyfriend

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    I have few problems with their latest release. I am also thinking/evaluating for alternatives. I will ditch it if they continue to insist that custom installation is useless.
    BTW, its firewall is one of the best firewall available to date. It does not slow down things here and has good protection against network attacks. Currently with good customizations, it is providing one of the best protections against known/unknown threats.
     
  10. Noob

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    Haven't experienced any serious slowdowns with KIS when i installed it. (2009-2010-2011)

    Specially the 2009, i used it for like half a year without any slowdowns i could notice. :)
     
  11. blasev

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    Those positive points are the only reasons I still use it until now...
     
  12. Rampastein

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    Hm, so Application Control and PDM don't check whether the digital signature is valid or not? Have you tested a malware sample with a storlen certificate against KIS?

    I personally think disabling Automatic mode is enough (leaving the whitelists etc. on), I've yet to see malware get to the whitelist. I've seen one FakeAV with a valid digital signature though. With Interactive Mode and smart use of the sandbox I haven't been able to get anything past KIS yet.

    About performance, it's not as light as many competitors, but I don't really find it slowing my PC down. During updating or other things it eats takes a dozen % CPU usage (but with gaming mode it usually updates at times when I don't need the CPU power), and it doesn't use much RAM either. After running through a full scan once it gets noticably lighter since it doesn't scan the files again.

    However I'd ditch KIS if there would be another security product which would have an integrated FW, AV, HIPS and a Sandbox and which would provide as excellent protection while being as userfriendly as KIS is (even in Interactive Mode, I rarely ever get any popups because of the very large whitelist).
     
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  13. BoerenkoolMetWorst

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    I don't know whether it's checked for validity and haven't tested, but a while ago there was commotion about a malware with a stolen certificate from Realtek. From what I understood, when something like that happens it first needs to be discovered and then the certificate needs to be revoked, so if it's not revoked yet it seems likely that it can get past most security applications that automatically trust digitally signed files.
     
  14. Kernelwars

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    hahahha I believe you there my good friend:argh:
     
  15. Rampastein

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    Oh, Stuxnet, you're correct with that case. Stolen certificates like that are very rare though (that particular case has been the only one I've heard about), so I wouldn't disable trusting digital signatures because of that (unless one wants to be really paranoid).
     
  16. nosirrah

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    These are increasing just as stolen version resources were increasing all of last year.
     
  17. thanhtai2009

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    You selected all options in this window?:
    choose Other to detected Keylogger
     
  18. Noob

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    Make sure to max KIS proactive settings :)
     
  19. mack_guy911

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    i am using linux from 5 years but on my desktop i always like KIS as my best choice why because it give me so much power to tweak :D

    secondly as far virus data base concern all anti virus product are pretty good and neck to neck equal ............97% 96 % 99% all that is funny stuff

    i got about 453 viruses on my friend system i scan and remove it from KIS live cd after update


    it clean all 453 virus successfully

    after that i reboot computer and check xp running perfectly well

    then i scan it with f-secure and norton live cd they both show system is clean

    then i reboot again system and install Malwarebytes byte and avira free update and scan with both they show it clean too :D


    this system is running successfully on net without any antivirus firewall or any security suite for 4 years

    what my friend use to do is he install antivirus once in year scan it and remove it he hate antivirus more that virus it self ........since he not here and his little brother make it infected

    How

    it get infected because he downloaded some crap song from some bad site

    so moral of this real story is A vs B vs C is not taking us any where end of the day............. zero day malware security = user hand

    :D
     
  20. blasev

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    I was about to argue that 1% from 6000 samples is around 60 :D
    but then again its true , the user is the most important aspect of the security

    Edit : kaspersky is my first love , I don't have a thing agaist it. In A vs B vs C, I always choose K in this past 5 years ;). But on the resourse usage sector , they do need some improvement. That alone can make ppl rethink the love :D
     
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  21. hawki

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    FWIW:

    Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 Wins Top Marks for Treating Malware in AV-Test's Q4 2010 Report

    Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 has earned a top award in tests performed in the fourth quarter of 2010 by AV-Test.org, an authoritative German research center. Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 was the only solution to earn top marks for successfully treating infected computers during the test.

    Twenty-three popular antivirus solutions were tested in order to determine the level of protection they offer against malicious programs, their usability and their ability to restore infected machines to working condition. During protection testing, the programs' levels of static and dynamic detection was evaluated, i.e. the capability of each solution to detect threats with and without executing the suspect code. During restoration testing, the competing solutions were assessed for their ability to neutralize malicious programs introduced onto the test machines prior to each security product being launched. During usability testing, the security products were tested for their ability to operate without producing false positives or making a noticeable impact on the test computer's performance. All solutions used their default settings on computers running 32-bit Microsoft Windows Vista SP2.

    Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 achieved top scores in all of the tests and received a prestigious award certificate from AV-Test.org. The solution's security performance was the best of all the solutions tested, with an exemplary 5.5 points, and was the only solution to earn a straight 6 points out of 6 for restoring previously infected machines.

    http://www.kaspersky.com/news?id=207576274

    http://www.av-test.org/certifications
     
  22. altruist

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    That's what got me to try it.

    As an update (for those not reading through this thread), point #4, regarding the keylogger, was ignored because the program was digitally signed as a trusted application. In other words, you can safely ignore it, because KIS only didn't detect it because it was considered not a virus.

    That said, point #1-3 still applies (at least on Windows 7 x64), still good enough reason for me not to use it.
     
  23. Syobon

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    wait, what exacly are you complaining? kaspersky didn't stop the zemana "keylog"? first its no key log just a test, and you should disable auto trust signed executables to let it be detected, its a common case of bad default settings, comodo suffers of it as well, all in name of userfriendly.
    still kaspersky has one of better keylog detection out there.
     
  24. Q Section

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    The issue of whether the firewall slows down a computer needs to be analysed. For those responding with comments about the firewall affecting speed or not - please post your system RAM, Internet connection speed and tell whether your HDD upon which Kaspersky resides has been defragged recently or not. These three factors may make all the difference in perceived "slowness" for you so please advise us in this regard.
     
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  25. mack_guy911

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    brower speed feel little slow due response time


    its due to KIS browser net scan its one of best feature KIS has to block infection before getting to your system

    (ie. it scan links and data in ram 1st then it give it your hardisk thats why it feel little slow because it act kinda a proxy virtual gateway so if you got any site blocked by virus warning its not actually blocking the site but blocking the downloaded buffer of that site in your ram to execute it

    so in simple what ever you open a site it scan by KIS in your local ram before passing it to further........... so thats why it appears very little slow due to response time taken by scanning

    for example try opera and firefox/ie you feel opera fast because it dosent support KIS browser plug-in but then you cannot blocks sites in opera with help of kis browser plugin

    please also note: here i am not talking about sandbox feature of KIS that other thing ;)
     
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