ZA Spying on me ?

All false positives. As already said you need to exclude security tools from each other to avoid false alerts. Vsmon is the main firewall and HIPS driver (in ZAPRO) it filters all controlled activities of your system.

One of the many golden rules in security: whenever you don't feel to be able to control your security tools then think about to simplify your setup and concentrate on protecting the system from the outside threats rather then focusing on protecting it from itself

 

This is more likely a fp. I have experienced this pop-up with other various hips products. I'm still experiencing this with OA flagging my official ATI drivers and Perfect Disk as a screen reader. It usually happened when I would open the graphical UI for the first time.

 

@fax, that's wisdom there -- thanks mate!

Thanks for the tips guys!

 

"now reading all the answers and posts, my conclusion is this,i agree,with FAX here "
but put in a milder way.


You think thy are , and trust your .program,Zemana simply block zone alarms IP links.
then you could, if this is a concern, block the zlclient from linking.
and really worry uninstall it.the fire wall.

the rest is just ~~~~
but i have my doubts about the spying alert.
my ask is what was your reply to the alert? if indeed you think it was a possible threat,did you allow it.or block it
as i cant see you mentioned this in any post .or i missed it

why my comments

I. have used zone alarm from the very first version.MADE.

and its up and down success.yet to ever see them spying on its users.
and before any one points to thy have.yes i also know about that as well
that also was Rubbish..
if updates are considered spying then do not use the service.

as for zlclient stop it from linking.(to the net).you do not need this for zone alarm to be fully functional, works 100%

itsmej

 

Well I cant say I know if ZA is phoning home for reasons that are not in the best interest of the customer's privacy, I do know one thing and that is ever since this issue hit the public arena I have steered away from ZA because I havnt seen an answer or a reason from them that justifies ZA calling home.

nessy

 

I Totally Agree

Zemana, and Spyshelter is another HIPS, so of course their going to notify about another HIPS that is protecting at the same level, Its called a "FALSE POSSITIVE", Zemana alerts to just about everything, it is up to the user to know the difference between a FP and a threat, Please educate yourselves more on the subject before putting down a legitimate application.

ZA phones home for updates, and or if you let it call home to send bug reports ect so they can make their software better, I don't even know of a security app that doesn't call home for at least 1 thing or another. Please read their privacy policy to see how data is collected, and if you dont like it then move on to another one that you like.

 

Thank you Warlockz. Exactly to the point

 

When people get this paranoid about there security products they would be better off not using any.. Remember "Big" Brother is watching.

 

Yes we can't let our fear grow so large we fear the software protecting us from our malware fear. I think AV av and firewall out there submits some sort of information back to the people who created it.

From my personal experiance I have used ZA and no info was stolen in any way from my machine from what I can tell.

 

It's not about being paranoid but wanting to be in control of our comps & apps, rather than them being

@ itsmej

Good tip about blocking zlclient in ZA Thanks

When i did i got an alert saying i wouldn't be able to auto update, but i'd already set it to not do that anyway

 

Sorry but ZoneAlarm isn't logging data for 3 letter agencies, or even spying on their costumers, if they were it would be quickly known and their activities would be released to the public destroying their reputation, then all of their years of hard work trying to improve their software to gain reputation and protect their costumers would have been for nothing.

I would be more worried about drawing attention to myself on a public forum by posting numerous posts being paranoid about my data being leaked by legitimate applications.

I hope this statement didnt go to far and I am in no way trying to put anyone down, I'm only trying to educate, this is a security forum and they do data mine, you would be suprised where they look, and I'm just trying to point out that what you post online can end up drawing attention to yourself 99.9% more than what little info "bug report" or "need for updates" a legitimate application may call home to collect.

 

What a strange comment. I dont think my not trusting a security application is going to invoke the prying eyes of every inteligence organisation . And if it does then our world is a pretty safe place if they only worry about somebody like me.

 

My comment wasnt tward you but the ones who post numerous posts being extra paranoid and

Please dont put words in my mouth because nowhere in my comment did I say

"not trusting a security application is going to invoke the prying eyes of every inteligence organisation ."

I said "can" not "is going to" also nowhere did I say "every Inteligence agency" is going to be watching you

This is what I said before you totally missed the point

"posting numerous posts being paranoid about my data being leaked by legitimate applications."
and
"what you post online can end up drawing attention to yourself 99.9% more than what little info "bug report" or "need for updates" a legitimate application may call home to collect."

I didnt say its going to all I said is it Can.

And here is my biggest point

"ZoneAlarm isn't logging data for 3 letter agencies, or even spying on their costumers, if they were it would be quickly known and their activities would be released to the public destroying their reputation"

CloneRanger knows exactly what Im talking about, I can tell by looking at his sig

 

Hey guys, please don't fall out over this !

Nothing wrong with being cautious & alert to what your OS & apps are doing with/to YOUR comp & inbounds etc, IMO.

Yes i visit www's that provide Lots of info that "They" would rather we didn't know, about how Billions/Trillions of our tax $/£ etc are wasted year after year, & how they lie/cheat etc etc & what we can do about it.

I know for a FACT that 3 letter agencies have probed my FW over the years, as i looked up the IP's They don't advertise themselves as NSA etc etc though lol, but instead use .MIL .GOV etc IP's & also use what most people might think of as innocent well know large companies IP's, as well as probably others.

I don't care if they know i know or not as i'm not doing Anything illegal, just doing my duty as an informed citizen Doesn't mean i want to let them in etc though

 

Wow I thought this kind of thinking really was only in the movies... Please at least know how the internet it self works and background noise works before you think big bother is checking your porn habits.

 

LOL

 

@ Fajo

I don't need to be a gee whiz in internet communincations, unlike yourself i presume to be able to read my FW logs & then look up the IP's.

Look up these for starters i recently found in my logs & see what they say 21.1.42.217 & 33.22.50.60 I already know the answer, then try & tell me they are not what they are.

Also presuming i have porn habits is OT & not welcome

@ fax

LOL etc

Better than crying hey

 

So what happens if ZA is spying on you ,will they find something interesting ?!
Do you think they care if you have a small ... or if your girl friend is a man or if you "like" kids ?!
I dont think so.I would worry about in case you want blowing some buildings up
As long as they are not using to much bandwidth i really don t care
The main problem with ZA is that it doesnt like AV-s installed along in most cases.

 

The makers of Zonealarm come under massive scrutiny from forums like this one and they're not dumb enough to build in backdoors that compromise the user's privacy - that's what I think.

I always have HIPS (especially) exclude from monitoring the other bits and bobs I have running for protection purposes, so they don't ever clash - is the theory. If you're paranoid about FP's from the security applications you yourself have chosen, then you might wanna go and disconnect from the internet LOL. I think it's time to give up when you think EVERYONE is out to get you.

 

I'm sorry you really do need a course in Internet Communications, because you have no understanding why or what is even hitting your firewall. Regardless of the IP it "Supposedly" came from.

Also I'll point out if "Big Brother" wanted to see what you were up to on the internet they could with you never knowing about it. They would not waste the time or the attention to probe ports and try to Force there way in. They would watch your in and out traffic and if anything flagged you, they would get a bench warrant and seize your computer.

All this talk about 3 letter agency probing your computer or "Attempting" to break in is just amusing. Why would they waste the time when they could just take the computer from you ? then check it over at there heart's content.

I guess my point about all of this is people are WAY to paranoid about the internet and the app's that are set in place to protect them. It's kind of sad to see people more worried about what is protecting them then the actual hackers, coders and over all junk on the internet it self.

 

Don't get too excited about been scanned by DoD, never heard of IP spoofing? This is normally used by "spammers" to hide their origin. Of course, they choose sexy IPs to do that.

Checking the IP is meaningless... it may have worked 10 years ago but now .... you need much more than a firewall log. And forget about DoD scanning around, they have better methods!

 

There's no privacy today, no matter what you do.
That's a fact of life, and just taking part in the information age gets you tracked, for one reason or another.
I really don't understand why conspiracy theorists have credit cards, cell phones, and post on the internet.

 

Originally i was curious to assertain as to why ZA "might" be spying on me/others, due to the things i noted. Nothing wrong with wanting to know more info about such matters, is there ! It is an established Proven FACT that several years ago, inspite of being a high profile etc company, ZA were caught lying about their software calling home without permission & it's true purpose. Since then they were "supposed" to have ended that practice. So i wondered if they actually had, or not.

Different people have asked various questions & stated a number of things along the way with a wider scope than the initial topic, which is fine by me. But then i'm allowed to answer & state my findings & thoughts etc too, which is what i've done. If some people have a problem with that, so be it !

I don't believe for one second that Everyone is out to get me, nor indeed that Anyone is actually actively Constantly monitoring me LOL. However, due to some of the www's i visit which are KNOWN to be monitored by you know who, that could obviously mean anyone visiting them "could" also be put on a list etc etc. So as far as i'm concerned it's wiser to be as alert to what's happening as possible, be stupid not to i'd say !

Just for the record, some people might be Extremely surprised & shocked at how many www's are tracked/monitored etc, & i'm Not only talking about the obvious ones either. Now that "They" have numerous vast data centers directly tapped into ALL the major & other ISP's 24/7/365 in the USA & elsewhere without a warrant, they can & do as it's all done automatically. Any citizen wanting to find out what's Really going on in the world instead of wasting hours every day watching crap on tv etc etc, will at some point/s need to access certain www's to discover the Truth. These www's are not liked by you know who because they challenge etc their modus operandi & the powers/people behind them. People can choose to believe any/all of this or not, but it makes no difference to me, and certainly not to them !


@ fax

Indeed you're right, it could be IP spoofing. Of course there is no real way to be certain, so i think it's better to aware in either case.

@ Judge Dee

Conspiracy theories are just that, theories. I'm only interested in Facts = real Conspiracies & finding out the truth = And i've found out plently which would make most decent people totally outraged if they also knew.

 

Who exactly is "you know who"?