Poor coding

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by 3GUSER, Aug 11, 2010.

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  1. Narxis

    Narxis Registered Member

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    agree, i can't say more, i have the same feelings when using panda, i just don't like it, too automatic, too much FP and heavier than other AVs.

    to others:

    too many processes means bigger chance for crashing or BSOD
     
  2. progress

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    On my computer too: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1744570&postcount=187 :(

    I agree ... :doubt:
     
  3. pbust

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    Just saw this thread by chance... next time please use "Panda" somewhere in the thread name to make it meaningful.

    Regarding the OP problem and other similar problems such as from @progress, it definately looks like a conflict with some specific software installed on the same system, possibly other security software.

    Regarding the number of processes, it doesn't really matter how many processes are running as long as the sum total of impact in the operation of the PC is low. From that perspective I recommend reading the latest Performance Test from AV-Comparatives.org:
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/performance-tests

    To the OP and others with similar problems, if you're interested in allowing us to troubleshoot it and fix it please PM me.
     
  4. RejZoR

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    While i do agree about processes, it's much more practical for the user if there are max 3 processes for a security program than entire task manager flooded by processes from the same program. Or if there has tio be so many of them, at least being named in the exactly same way, so they stack together in task manager.
     
  5. Kyle1420

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    lolwut..
    They don't just make processes for the sake of it. They actually do something,..

    Use as many as you need.
     
  6. RejZoR

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    Well, many programs are proof that you don't need gazillion of processes to do the same job.
     
  7. Nevis

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    ya , i agree and disagree same time

    firstly, dont take no. of processes conclude you to it being heavy,bloated

    i also find panda to be moderate in resource consumption and i have posted many times also that panda dont seem as fast to me as shown in various av test
     
  8. echtp

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    I am using Panda 2011 now for a week and it is working very good, and fast. I don't have a highend computer, but no slowdowns. So.... every system is different i guess.
     
  9. 3GUSER

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    Perhaps a software conflict with the entire OS :D
    I am 100% sure this is not a software conflict with another security product just because there was not such in my case (cases).

    Each and every Wilders member is aware of this comparison and the best results AVC gives you.

    No , thanks . Too late , for me I think it is enough . Since the beginning of 2006 I have given Panda numerous chances - all to no avail.
     
  10. progress

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    There was no other security product installed as well :doubt: :(
     
  11. Macstorm

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    Although I never used Panda before, I'd surely always prefer a poor coded app with good detections rate over other "well coded" ones that detect Nothing :rolleyes:
     
  12. pbust

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    Does not need to be security software. Could be a conflict with a specific third-party software.

    As we have millions of users without this problem and with Panda running smoothly, I'm more inclined to think this is a conflict with your specific setup rather than a widespread issue.

    Again, if any of you both are willing to allow us to troubleshoot and fix and improve things we would really appreciate it. Otherwise it just seems to me ranting for the sake of ranting.
     
  13. Fajo

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    This quote made me chuckle and is so full of Wrong.

    So you rather have a program that can or will bring the system to its knees, crash, error, make other programs crash or even cause data loss and "Might" have a chance at detecting something.

    Vs.

    A Program that will run soundly with the OS allow you to run your other programs without error and wont bring your system to a crawl that also "Might" have a chance to detect something.


    How "Well" Programs are coded make the difference how well your system runs also and it's chance of functioning properly along with the overall system impact.

    If a program is coded poorly and Eats system resources, crashes, cause other programs to crash or not function correctly, it could cause alot more HARM then good. To the point that you actually have a HIGHER chance to get infected now because of System / Program instability.

    Now I'm not saying Panda is coded Well or Poor, I'm just stating this is something to be looked at when you choose this kind of software. So you don't put your self in a worse spot then you were to begin with.
     
  14. Macstorm

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    I don't believe Panda is a "poor-coded" app. As a matter of fact, I don't believe that any (of the most known names today) is that "poorly coded"

    All I see in this thread is intense hatred against a growing menacing competitor. I think I should've added an extra sarcasm smiley in my previous post.
     
  15. Fajo

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    I see people with a issue and people that have had issues before. Just because there experience was bad with the program does not mean they are "intensely hating" They explained how there experience went and what it did to there computer. If something bad happened to your computer because of Product A would you not try to warn people about it or try to find out if others had the same experience. It's not there fault that others have had negative experiences and decided to share those also.

    As for the second part of the quote maybe it would of been better not to of said anything at all ?
     
  16. Macstorm

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    Just ignore it then. I see not everyone is able to read between the lines.

    Where are the other millions of Panda users suffering this "poor-coding issue"?
     
  17. Fajo

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    Pro fact.
    Not everyone that has issues use's the internet to fix it or for that fact even knows what program is causing the issue. You only see a select few, Just because they don't post here or anywhere else don't mean there not suffering from the same issue. That's why troubleshooting the issue and figuring out if it's with the program or not is so important. Its the customer that you piss off and never says a word that will hurt you the most.

    Now this is not saying this issue is wide spread or affecting millions of people. This is the experience with this user, and now people have brought up other issues that they have experienced. Sorry that you seem to be hell bent on proving no issue exists.

    Now to clarify and please read the whole post this time. I'm not saying Panda or any other program for that matter is poorly coded. I'm saying if there is a issue it needs to be looked into.

    Anyways all I am doing now is repeating my self. I'm done posting here as there is enough information and some people are just hopeless or closed minded. :cautious:
     
  18. Macstorm

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    Just to iterate what i said above: I don't trust Panda to secure my pc, never used it, but these are for other reasons.

    The OP himself doesn't want to find out what's wrong with Panda on his system ...hmmm
     
  19. pbust

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    Got the file (thanks) but missing the password to open it. Can you please post or PM it to me?
     
  20. 3GUSER

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    Interestingly I deleted this post of mine and you got it from "somewhere" (I know) . Anyway , since this happened , I am giving you the password and another log (please ignore the old Autoruns)
     
  21. pbust

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    Thanks, got everything now.

    Btw I got your msg from the email notification of new posts on the thread.
     
  22. xMarkx

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    $42.95 for their antivirus and $64.95 for their internet security suite for only 1 user and 1 year is kinda much.
     
  23. atomomega

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    OUTRAGEOUSLY TOO much, I'd say.
     
  24. 3GUSER

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    Thanks for your confirmation . I'll definitely wait for your results
     
  25. progress

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    I hope you can fix the GUI crash soon ... :(

    Panda Cloud AV is running smothly without any crashes :)
     
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