can a crack affect an antivirus engine?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by hckyo, Aug 12, 2010.

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  1. progress

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    Let's crack them all :D
     
  2. icr

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    I don't agree with you in this case. Give it some time kaspersky v2011 is being JUST released. It took nearly 5-8 months to crack norton's v2009(Trial Reset)
     
  3. Boyfriend

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    Trial Reset for Norton 2010 and 2011 (beta) exist already even 2011 has not released yet. Kaspersky latest build (11.0.1.400a) crack will not be easy/impossible task as every file is now digitally signed and Kaspersky strictly check them for validity.
     
  4. chabbo

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    i got a kaspersky site who deal out like 200 new keys for kaspersky internet security every day. ps Norton trial reset for Beta wont work after restart its will give problem so you need to uninstall and wait, for a real trial reset,
     
  5. Yanix

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    You didnt say last version. :D
     
  6. Tiago Lopes 11

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    Sometimes they are, sometimes don't.
    But I can't trust my computer's security in a cracked antivirus, because I don't know what is in there.
    I use Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 (bought) and it is doing a great job.
     
  7. Technical

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    The major problem is that, sooner or later, the antivirus vendor will block/detect you're using a cracked version and deny updates. A non-updated antivirus is worse than anything else. You're just losing resources with it.
    Why would someone crack an antivirus if we have perfectly free options like avast, CIS, Avira and AVG? I really can't understand that.
    Other products, that shouldn't be constantly updated, could be easily cracked and (in some extent) be useful (not considering the morality of that). But an antivirus? It's a bad choice in my opinion.
     
  8. xandros

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    i think crack not good for the computer and for antivirus maybe but this what i think
     
  9. pabrate

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    Topic title says otherwise.
    Besides, maybe I'm just joking, what do you know , heh ?
    As I said in the first place, Prevx can't be cracked.
    If you find somewhere crack for it good luck to you (you as in general).
     
  10. Taliscicero

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    I could probably crack it in a week but i don't do it anymore :)
     
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    probably 50% on this forum members are using cracked software and hide it.i don`t understand why would you lie... "OMG cracks are so evil...i only use legal copies of software" spare us the ~ Snipped as per TOS ~! :thumbd:
     
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  12. The Hammer

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    Your Defencewall version cracked?
     
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    I do not think it affects the functionality of the product itself. I am not an expert but I think the activation module is separate from the functional module of the Av.
    Many AVs will have "hardened" functional module(hard to crack) but the activation module will "not be hardened"(easier to crack) enough.
    Av companies can blacklist the key or change the activation key validation/process or algorithms of generating keys through updates to prevent the use of cracked AV.
    I assume, blacklisting keys happens from time to time.
    One can use the "cracked" software through that time but once it is addressed, you don't get updates anymore.
    It is difficult for the some av makers to keep track of such piracy because of financial and time constraints.
    I think money is one of the factors fueling the use of cracked software but some people just do it for "fun" (adventure) or to show their skills. It is like a constant battle between malware makers and AV makers.

    Not related but this issue reminds me the dialog from the "The dark Knight( 2008 )"

    ------Alfred Pennyworth:One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away.
    Bruce Wayne: Then why steal them?
    Alfred Pennyworth: Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. ---------------
     
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    Agree with you in this case:)


    :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
     
  15. steve1955

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    yes right,and I could prob beat Usain Bolt over 100metres but I've stopped running now!
     
  16. The Hammer

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    So has he at least for this year.:)
     
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    sulking cos he gort beat!:-but blaming a long standing injury for both lol
     
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    Here is the solution :D :D :D
    (sorry for being off-topic.......)
     
  19. Taliscicero

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    Its really not rocket science, I don't do it anymore because i have better things to be spending my time on then helping strangers collapse the AV market ^.-
     
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    i think most ppl who used some tampered software are actually addicted to using it. It starts from 1 and goes on & on..a mad race.

    2nd thing is the cost/price/afford-ability. if software a is $5 in US, but in some 3rd world country it would cost like 50units price. So if it is available for free as crack, user is tempted to save those 50 units. So a fair pricing is required.

    most ppl like investing in hardware rather than software. also reason is software don't last for ever. Example if u invest in windows-7, u don't get windows-8 for free, or if u buy any AV, it requires renewal. But if u buy a laptop, forever u need not pay again (unless to fix some problem)

    A change in business model would help the software industry.

    but still piracy is not good in any given case. If my memory serves good, every crack nfo file mentions to buy the software if u continue using it :eek:
     
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    when it comes to security

    NEVER trust cracks
     
  22. TairikuOkami

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    Have you ever used a crack? Cracks cause instability, games/software crash or have other problems, but it is acceptable, since it is just a game and it is better to run in like that for free than not at all. But are you willing to run a security software like that? If you answer yes, well then it is up to you. I allways install free security to PCs, but sometimes those people actually instal worse and slower security software, cracked of course, because they heard that is better than free. I wash ma hands over that. :rolleyes:
     
  23. King Grub

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    Actually, many times replacing the original .exe with the cracked .exe improves the game, making it run smoother with higher FPS. The bloated copy protection has been removed, and without it, the game might run smoother. Groups like RELOADED, Razor1911, and ViTALiTY are quite good at coding, and they remove the copy protection without affecting the game code. But without the copy protection checking for DVD:s or connecting to official company servers, the game is free to run smoother. An occasional screw-up is usually followed within a day by a crackfix or a proper by another group. And Scene cracks are not infected with any malware.
     
  24. TairikuOkami

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    True, I prefer nocd, because it is more comfortable, but they do not allways work like GRID, it crashes no matter what, but when DVD is inserted, it works just fine.
    The point is, that cracked security software is just too much. There could be mallware exceptions included in exe crack, a common user has no way to find out.
    Lets say, that you download an infected crack by mistake, AV will detect it, more or less, but with infected AV/AS, you are on you own. It is just to too risky.
     
  25. ashishtx

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    It depends on type of the crack. A simple passcode or username/password won't damage anything( Ofcourse the software maker won't like it). I always believe that every time some one uses a cracked software, they are discouraging the making of an improved software. If the developers don't earn anything, there will be no more new software.
     
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