Hurt Locker torrenters: prepare to get sued

Really...are they stupid?
Torrents are often "good" just for the initial release, then the huge number of downloaders get the stuff through other ways. If they want to do something they should point their attention to host services like rapidshare and similar. But I doubt they can really do something with these companies. Many of them are based in countries that the law does not even mention anything about digital piracy.

A recent trial in the Court of Appeals of Düsseldorf ( Rapidshare vs GEMA ), has pointed the responsibility for the uploaded content to the uploaders and not the hosting companies. So, let them hunt all the rapidshare (and others hosts ) links which are literally thousands every day. Almost impossible.

Really do they wonder how rapidshare became one of the biggest hosts (if not the biggest ) worldwide?

 

Hmm, now that you mentioned it - you wouldn't have a link to the full judgement, would you? (German is fine, doesn't need to be translated.)

 

Unfortunately not. The only details I have are from the official rapidshare news page: http://www.rapidshare.com/news.html

 

Well I just finished downloading the Blue Ray version of this movie. rather large at 25GB So I'll take a quote from Leo DiCaprio's Movie "Catch me if you Can "

 

So nice to see a happy person!

On the other side, I'm having difficulties downloading the trial version of Windows Server 2008 R2 from Microsoft's site. My ISP is giving me headaches. They have a service that (supposly) provides unlimited traffic 24/7. But, they're restricting the speed... Most of times goes around 8000 B/s (8 Kbps). Many people are having the same problem.

Insane... A guy paying X service... and they're restricting speed and downloads. When I had the limited traffic package, I could download at speeds of 200 Kbps, though the speed is suppose to be at the moment, where I live, 4 Mbps, but it could reach over time 7.2 Mbps.

My downloads speed are way below that. Deceitful advertising is what it is.

Anyway, glad you're happy with your new acquirement. I just hope this film is really great, because 25GB!!!!

 

@ m00nbl00d,

If the ISP is throttling based on content of traffic, maybe you should try the same downloading with an encrypted connection.

As for torrents, I downloaded Star Wars Episode I before it was out in theatres.
The quality of the movie was very high, don't know where it came from though.
I purchased a ticket to see it in the theatre.
I also purchased a copy of the DVD.

You can't get the theatre experience at home.

I like the availability on torrents of movies. If I like it I will buy a copy of the movie, maybe even more if it is really good (Rounders, and the Blue-Ray when it drops).

I guess I am going to have to learn how to use Rapidshare Search Engines for now.

 

Yes, there's no experience as the one you get at the theaters. I go there very rarely. The last time I went was like 5 years ago. In what comes to crowded places I'm very antisocial. I rather watch them when they pass on TV. It's quiet. It's a thing of my own.

I already sent an e-mail to the ISP asking wtf is going on. I didn't acquire a service with very limited speed. That's not what I am paying for.

I even threaten to end my service with them in case they don't restore my Internet speed back. It's impossible to download 3MB files, and most of times the download will die, for it reaches too damn lower speeds < 5 kB/s. Insane.

If I'm paying to have X service, then I expect to have it.

My reclamation letter/e-mail to them is quite harsh in that matter. I'm not here to play games with them. They advertise their services as having Y qualities. We, consumers, buy them, according to our needs. If they don't keep up with what they say on their advertising/site, they lose clients.

Before contacting with them, I went to check the most known computers forum here, and they have a section just dedicated to problems with ISPs, and a lot of costumers are having the exact same problem: very low speeds. And it's not a matter of whether or not the service arrives in good conditions. They're making in it on purpose, and they will have to restore it back.

I also advised the other complaining clients to send the ISP an e-mail threatening them they better restore it back or will lose them as clients. Unless we do it, it won't change back.

They need to learn a lesson. And, if in their first reply to my e-mail they don't say will restore my speed back, then my answer will be: "I'm out of business with you, and be sure that I'll take the proper means to let every possible future client of yours to know what you really are!"

Let's see what comes...

 

they leak it out then try to sue maybe they need to tighten their own security maybe i'll sue them first for letting the movie out before its released what a joke ozzy here you ain'sueing me

 

When will these guys realize that the Genie was let out of the bottle years ago? While they're going after BT users there are streaming sites popping up everywhere showing the latest films not to mention the plethora of file hosting services.They really need to take a reality check and start looking for innovative solutions to protect their income stream rather than these fruitless endeavours.

 

Never, at least until they start starving from hunger due to their mental/business incapabilities. They are totally unwilling to produce any innovation, stuck in their old ways trying to rip-off all the customers and artists they can.

Now that reminds me - TBP has been shut down, for... almost whole day!

 

How do you explain that some of the greatest films leak way before they appear in theaters?

Do you really believe it's a low-life employee leaking it? Don't you think it's coming from the top of the top?

I honestly don't buy it that such studies, full of $$, have all those $$ for being stupid. They're far from it! They release the films to the Internet. People download it. People go to the theater, for the experience of seeing such a film is just way too good to lose it. They get their $$. They sue people. They get their $$.

It's actually a great way of doing business. They get the double, triple, etc of what they would have gained with people only going to the theaters.

They're smart! Outsmart them by not going to the theaters!

 

If the rights holders showed a fraction of the ingenuity of the 'pirates' then there wouldn't be an issue.While they're chasing their tails running around trying to uninvent the internet,technology and methods of distribution evolve constantly.In Darwinian terms they'll have to adapt or die but the latter seems most likely considering their track record and one-track approach of trying to bludgeon people into paying well over the odds for media.

Instead of the current idiocy they should look at ways of encouraging people to pay something for the films and music they're downloading whether by direct means or by advertising.I honestly believe that the majority of folks have a sense of fair play and will be willing to contribute a reasonable amount for a quality and convenient service.

I was only just reading about a bundle of games that was offered recently on a 'pay what you want' basis and this generated far more than they were expecting so it's one possible avenue.In reality though I expect more of the same draconian measures that have failed so abysmally at every turn.

 

I love these actually, it's amusing to watch the big media companies try to fight a war they can't win. If they spent as much on improving their products and their reputation that they did on suing, they might be able to advance a little. I have about as much fear of them as I do my own shadow. I wouldn't have anything to fear anyway because I don't download movies or music they consider "big", seeing as how anything they consider big I consider a steaming pile of manure.

Let 'em rattle their war sabers, if anyone needs me I'll be on Emule or my torrent site.

 

Last year in Australia, someone was fined about a million dollars for uploading a Nintendo game to a Torrent site. He thought he was safe.

 

1. Teaches him to not upload directly from his own system and IP address, which he almost certainly did as most do not use off-site seedboxing or even know about it and other services/methods.

2. Games are even riskier than music is when it comes to pirating, so I'm not surprised.

Really it all comes down to what you download, and especially who backs the artist/movie/game/software you're downloading. The most popular and recent stuff always carries a bigger risk.

P.S, speaking of Australia, it also heavily depends on your nations laws and how much lawmakers push people like ISPs to monitor and record activity.

 

sucker

 

thats what i said just like the recording industry

 

Every country has their own law when it comes to Information security.
server hosting the movies may be a in a specific country but the client downloading it from a different country may have all together a different set of law in his/her country

Not sure how this gonna work.

If somebody really wants to tighten the grip around this thing, they would have to target the host not the client

 

Another ISP bucks 'Hurt Locker' subpoenas

 

Good, screw the subpoenas, I wish more ISPs had the stomach to stand up to these clowns. Some of the methods they use to "catch" (more like trap) people end up breaking the very laws they claim to be uploading...and they aren't the police so that horse crap doesn't fly. A bigger question for me is, why would anyone even illegally download that piece of junk movie? Now THERE is a mystery. Making crap like that is the reason people don't go see movies anymore, not because they all want a five finger discount.

 

What is off-site seedboxing, and can you elaborate on these other methods?