Avira 10 launched

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Ibrad, Mar 22, 2010.

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  1. wtsinnc

    wtsinnc Registered Member

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    I should have added in my previous post that the updater took slightly over two minutes to start the actual download of signatures.
    About the same as with version 9...

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    I also should have added that (so far), I'm experiencing no noticeable slowdown or other issues since the install.

    To this point, I like it !
     
  2. Brocke

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  3. ratwing

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    I install Avira in ShadowMode,pretty often,and Avira 10 seems to install much quicker than 9.

    There is a kind of "crisp" feel about the way the GUI opens and navigates.

    Small thing,but the new, shiny, tray icon looks very nice.
     
  4. ViVek

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    New process in avira avshadow.exe

    o_O??
     
  5. GES/POR

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    Does Avira have a self-protection module?
     
  6. nzpossum

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    Avira 10 is using an insane amount of RAM compared to Avast 5
     
  7. ratwing

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    @GES/POR:

    Yes,if you have it installed,check configuration+expert mode+general+
    security.

    You will "product protection".

    @lunaticdreams : yes,I have it also.
     
  8. stratoc

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    got bored with the "warning evaluation license" with every windows i opened. i had premium 3 years back i wanted to see the changes. not marketing spam!
    looked like a lot of resources didnt really give it chance though to be honest.
     
  9. wtsinnc

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    I'm running XP and currently using about 410mb as I write this, about 20mb more when loading pages at Wilders.

    How much RAM are you using ?
     
  10. zfactor

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    what?? 410 from avirao_O if so wow...
     
  11. nzpossum

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    Avira using about 50k of RAM which is much more than Avast 5
     
  12. xorrior

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    I use it, I just set secure-start, high-heuristics, guard-on, and auto-update and let it work. Also shut recursion depth off and smart extensions on, on the scanner part. I don't have Guard do archives, it'll eventually catch the binary while it's unpacking cause it hooks the file system I/O with a protected driver.

    One thing you'll notice is in the free one they 'water it down'. Look in logs, they set the heuristics low and recursion to 20 no matter the user-configuration.

    I guess you pack a malware binary 21 levels deep in a archive and just use a custom packer and your undetected as a malware author, the packer just hides it from Guard, then you do a DLL loader into winlogon.exe or whatever. It's still probably the best paid & unpaid AV out there, Avira-GDATA-Kaspersky seem to be dominant in benchmarks. They all fail with behavioral analysis and memory residence though, once you're in a signed process either through memory corruption or loader injection no AV can touch you.
     
  13. wtsinnc

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    Sorry;
    I posted the TOTAL RAM usage.
    Nothing else running real time except for IE 7 inside of sandboxie and Keyscrambler.
    Avira is the only real-time scanner I have installed and by itself shows 2136kb of memory usage.

    I'm having no trouble with slowdowns or page rendering.
    Sorry for the bad reporting.
     
  14. shadek

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    New Avira 10 uses 1900 kB of ram. :eek: Pretty light! The best thing is, it seems like it reads the HDD even less and in a more efficient way (which we all know is the key to being a light product).

    The only thing I miss out of Avira now is a x64 version of AntiVir 10.
     
  15. Brocke

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    have you posted that on their forums to see what they say about the 'Watered down'
     
  16. Carver

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    Now Avira premium has pro-activ do I need Threatfire.
     
  17. xorrior

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    Nah, I figured they knew. They'll probably just give some PR friendly feedback and nothing will change.

    looking at their engine though, high-heuristics seems to just do a more thorough analysis of the binary by going just a little more in depth on the PE structure and looking for signatures. It's still generic detection. I can write something in any programming language that logs keys or something and it wont be detected unless it's the same source and compiler as some published malware. Most kiddy malware authors will use a site like virus total to see if their creation gets detected. I use virtualization and a group policy for process privilege though, so avira does what I need.
     
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  18. clocks

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    EDIT

    Let me rephrase. I am not sure I see anything new here that makes me excited about this AV. The "new" GUI seems familiar to me. And I do not really see many new feature adds.
     
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  19. firzen771

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    i think we should not make this an A vs B thread and just discuss the new release of Avira so we dont start unnecessary arguments.
     
  20. Brocke

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    true but that wont happen
     
  21. CloneRanger

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    A vs B

    Doesn't mean Avira v Bitdefender does it :D

    How about B v A instead ;)
     
  22. clocks

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    You are right, I reworded my post.....thanks
     
  23. firzen771

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    :thumb: but i think the real major thing is the Pro-Activ component and overall fine-tuning is good to.
     
  24. ghidorah68

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    There's no 64-bit Pro-Activ though...which is disappointing..at least to me.
     
  25. clocks

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    I guess I am not clear. Is the pro-active the behavior blocker? And is it in the free version? I did not see any options for it, and thought it was just for the PRO version. If that is the case, the free version is not really much different than version 9.
     
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