Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing malware

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  1. Stefan Kurtzhals

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    If the malware is detected before it was exeuted, detection means prevention. Avira has removal abilities and for example uses it's rootkit low level access for cleaning up the system. So claiming Avira can not prevent or remove at all is a plain outright lie.

    Of course it happens that detection gets added too late or the user did update Avira too late and got infected before a detection was available.
    In this case, and ONLY in this case you need removal features. But this happens with every AV product. There is no 100% protection, what a surprise!

    BTW, Avira 2010 is going to be out in a few days, it has a generic malware removal module.
     
  2. AvinashR

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    I agree with you...NO AV can provide you a 100% removal ability... If someone is claiming that they have 100% removal ability then its a plain lie.

    I even don't trust on AV's heuristics capability ...No matter how they are strong but still there is some possibility that malware done some kind of damage or left his agents inside the system to do the remaining damage....

    Last but not least thanks for the latest News...
     
  3. bellgamin

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    Re: Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing mal

    THE BEST removal tool is a pre-infection image of one's system disk.

    I have zero interest in an Antivirus Program's removal capabilities. I just want it to tell me when I have a real or potential problem. I will take it from there.
     
  4. AvinashR

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    Re: Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing mal

    Yep, but everyone is not like you bro bellgamin...

    You are an advance user, but people those who don't know very much about this will rely on their native AV only...Long years back i also rely very much on my AV's..but now i give them a damn care...

    I agree that i keep changing my security setup in every 2-3 months but just for the sake of my computer's taste...
     
  5. iravgupta

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    Re: Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing mal

    Is it asking for Russian cuisine these days?
     
  6. AvinashR

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    Re: Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing mal

    No its not HAL-9001, Yeah now he would like to taste Russian Cuisine these days...He said he is not gonna take American Cuisine now...So i served him Russian, but suddenly he start to vomit...

    But now i have sorted out the issue....
     
  7. Osaban

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    That's all there is to it. I would like to add that I have been in situations where I had to let the malware run within my virtualized system, to see what was was in the flashdrive (I wasn't testing the system!) and despite choosing the "Ignore" action, Avira would still block the malicious object in most instances. What I'm basically trying to say is that Avira has the tendency to block even when asked to ignore (sometimes I had to disable the guard altogether).
     
  8. andyman35

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    I know that removal is important but personally I'd not install Avira (or any other AV) on an known infected system.There are dedicated malware removal tools such as AVZ,Dr Web Cureit and MBAM for that scenario.
     
  9. CloneRanger

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    @Osaban

    It happens often to me too, just had the same experience in post 141 https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1641596#post1641596 and i have to disable the guard for the brief duration.

    I believe that Avira is just helping to help protect us from ourselves, so we don't get infected. Not many people would do what we do. It only keeps prompting after you click ignore whilst we are still looking at that file/folder etc. Once you leave it alone it's fine.
     
  10. CogitoTesting

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    I think you have all the rights to ask your question and to me it is not A vs B. Your question is genuine and comments, questions, and ideas should not be suppressed.

    In any software there is a pro and con. Some have more pros than cons and vice versa.

    Among Avira, Avast, and AVG I will still choose Avira (paid or free) on a 32 bit system. My reasons are 1) Good self protection of its core processes 2) Rootkit protection 3) and outstanding detection. The con with Avira was always its cleaning capability and hopefully things will change with the new version.

    On a 64 bit system Avira does not have rootkit protection and there is no self protection of its processes. In that case I would choose Avast (paid or free) with Avast Outstanding shields protection.

    To me AVG used to be good but the same cannot be said today and I'm not impressed with AVG free nor paid. I have my reasons and I'm not going to state them since I do not want to offend AVG users. In any event whenever you are protecting your Windows computer always build your security apparatus in a layered fashion.

    To me the best advice I can give you is to dish out Windows once and for all and come over to Linux and especially Ubuntu my favorite distro.

    PS: To all mods and admins, I was not trying to bash any product and I'm not biased against any security software. I just provided my opinion in response to the thread's question in a very civilized way.

    Thanks.
     
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    IMHO most AV's seem to have issues with removing one thing or another. Just browse their official support forums, you'll see forum helpers suggesting HJT, SAS, MBAM, special removal tools, etc.
     
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    Re: Everbody is talking about Avira's detection, what about blocking and removing mal

    No truer words.
    Ice
     
  14. Leo2005

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    this will change in version 10. the 64 bit version will have rootkitprotection and self protection too.
    The protection will even be stronger then in version 9.
     
  15. progress

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    I assume the proactive module isn't included in Avira Free? :doubt:
     
  16. johnyjohn

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    AntiVir ProActiv is only for AntiVir Premium, Avira Premium Security Suite and AntiVir Professional.
    But generic malware removal is for all editions including AntiVir Personal. ;)
     
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