Replacing Threatfire

He he he !

Alpha-Draconia

 

the good thing is that you can set it as high as 5 if you wish and is free software

 

Maybe you should try Rising Antivirus without the Antivirus engine. You could use it's Smart Active Defense shield for protection.

 

U mean it iz better !

 

Hmm the whole prevx issue that was being discussed is kind of concerning. I don't wanna buy something I can't use. Also I don't like changing AV Programs (I'm REALLY REALLY picky about my antivirus) and I finally got myself to settle for Kaspersky after Bitdefender, G-Data, Viper, and AVG. Also I tried Defense Wall HIPS and it was just awful.

 

defensewall awfull ? dont think so man maybe you didnt know how to use it,it can provide 99.99% protection againts all kind of malware and you call it awfull no,no way

 

Maybe he said that because its confusing? I was kinda confused by it myself, but then again I didnt really try to learn the way it works.

 

If your main concern about Prevx is that it wouldn't run alongside your existing AV, that shouldn't be the case. Prevx has been designed to be compatible with other security software without causing conflicts. Prevx is effective enough to be used on its own, as a matter of choice, but it isn't a requirement and it works just as well when used as an additional layer alongside an existing AV.

If Prevx is of interest, you could try the free version to see how it runs alongside your other software. There's no difference between the free and paid versions other than the free version only alerts on malware detection and does not block (with the exception of adware and MBR rootkits which are blocked in the free version). If it runs well and you like the program, you'd then have the option of upgrading to the paid version later.

 

The problem I was afraid of with prevx was the internet issue that was discussed previously. I just downloaded and tried Prevx 3.0 and it's marking all kinds of programs on my computer that I have used for ages and some I have even made as malicious which is just ridiculous. As for Defensewall I installed it got it working and then my computer started behaving unusually and giving me problems which were resolved when I uninstalled the software.

 

Someone might be able to tell you when Mamutu is released as 64-bit.

 

It's unusual for Prevx to have that many false positives but, due to Prevx's Age/Popularity heuristics, it can happen with software that's not in wide circulation such as software you've written yourself for example. Although you can get Prevx to ignore the false positives, from what you've said it doesn't sound as though Prevx is for you, which is perfectly understandable given that you've had a bad experience with it.

DefenseWall is a very different type of program to ThreatFire as it works by policy restriction combined with limited virtualisation, rather than intelligent behaviour blocking. As far as I know, DefenseWall does not work on 64-bit systems which could explain the problems you encountered. A couple of good alternatives in the same class as DefenseWall are AppGuard and GeSWall, but AppGuard isn't yet available for 64-bit (it's planned for later this year) and I don't believe that GeSWall is either, so neither are options for you at the moment.

You could try Immunet Protect (similar to Prevx in some respects) which is currently still in beta but I haven't tried it myself and there are mixed reports about how good it is. Looks promising though if they can get it right and it is supposed to be compatible with existing AV's. A version is available for 64-bit systems.

You could also consider system virtualisation as an extra layer. Returnil and Shadow Defender are both excellent choices. Both are available for 64-bit systems and both should work alongside your existing security software without causing any issues. If something did slip past your other defenses, virtualisation would contain the malware within the virtual system and shorten the time to removal. All that would be necessary would be a reboot to ensure a perfect cleanup.

Last, and not least, there is now a 64-bit beta version of Sandboxie available. Whilst not as strong as the 32-bit version (due to limitations imposed by Microsoft's Kernel Patch Protection), combined with Kaspersky IS, it could be perfectly adequate for some additional protection.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that you should also investigate the features within Windows 7 AppLocker if you haven't done so already.

 

maybe not prexv + threatfire

 

sounds good thanks

 

Thanks for all the alternatives guys there's a lot to choose from

 

What kind of problems?

 

Tomwa uses windows 7 ultimate x64
Stated in post #18

 

Ah, I missed it. This explains a lot. Thanks!

 

I'm about one hour into my first try with Immunet and so far, I really like it.
My computer runs much faster with it versus Threatfire and Immunet doesn't give FPs on certain applications as the free version of Prevx does.

So, for a free application, I'm liking it a lot, albeit it's very early in the evaluation process.

 

I agree with you. I really like the potential of this program. It needs to improve in terms of detection, but it may end up being a good free alternative to Prevx. Panda Cloud is nice, but uses a lot of CPU for me. I think Immunet works differently than Threatfire.

 

Notepad will run even faster than all of them. Plus Notepad has zero FPs.

My point: Immunet is fast & lacks FPs because -- at this stage -- its detection is not good. Ergo, Immunet has few FALSE positives because it also has few TRUE positives.

 

ROFLMAO.

 

Although Prevx is highly touted the MRG test did not show it to be so super. It prevented only 24 of the 30 while several AVs and MBAM did better.
Why all the hype re Prevx? Even Ad-Aware free did better.

Regards,
Jerry

 

I set KIS to Application Control=High Restricted (it was blocking legit programs w/o asking set to Untrusted).

I KIS run with Threatfire...no problems.

 

Hi Tomwa,

Out of curiousity, what kind of issues are you seeing with ThreatFire.

 

Threatfire causes issues with permissions for executable files and a few other programs such as Daemon Tools.