Immunet Protect- Free cloud based AV

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  1. RejZoR

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    Monitor application install means that it only scans newly arrived files (copied from external media or internet) while it's not checking those already on the disk. Monitor application start means that it will check every file that is run.
     
  2. noblelord

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    Immunet doesn't seem to download it's latest version, nor is there anywhere on their site that it seems to be documented. The only way I can tell I do not have the latest version is that the current download package is 1.0.16 and my program shows 1.0.14. Is this feature being worked on? It's not much use if the program doesn't auto-update, Joe public isn't going to go and check the download link for version information.
     
  3. yankinNcrankin

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    My system = XPProS2 & Returnil 2.0.1.9002, and system C: encryption with truecrypt 6.2a, after install protect-1.0.16.exe
    I get as far as the intial flash scan and it freezes and cuts off my internet connection, I don't have that problem with other similar types of programs that use a online connection........like hitman, prevx...etc. Thinking maybe the encryption, anyone got any ideas?
     

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  4. clocks

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    This program is very similar to Panda Cloud AV right? If so, why does Panda take about 45min to scan my PC, while this only takes about 24 seconds. What am I missing?
     
  5. pbust

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    I wouldn't say its similar at all.

    When Panda Cloud AV scans the PC it scans absolutely everything (memory, files, compressed, packed, all directories, extensions, etc.).

    I haven't looked recently at Immunet but I believe this quick scan is of memory only.
     
  6. pbust

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    In order to differentiate correctly take a look at what the actual vendors are saying about these different products.

    • Panda Cloud Antivirus is a full replacement of any traditional AV.
    • Immunet, Prevx, Hitman, etc. are described by their own developers as compliments to existing AV products which you may have already installed.
     
  7. PrevxHelp

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    Just to clarify the clarification from pbust: as we state on our website, we've developed Prevx to be compatible with other security products but it can be used on its own. We aren't trying to convince people to give up their existing security as, like any other vendor, Prevx isn't perfect. Therefore in the off-chance that the user's incumbent AV would have found something that Prevx didn't, they would still receive the benefit by having both installed.

    Panda and any other AV falls into this same category - if you remove your existing security, it is possible that your new security would miss something that your existing security would have found, hence our stance on the benefits of a multi-layer approach.
     
  8. clocks

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    I see. Thanks for the explanations.
     
  9. alhuger

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    Hi,

    Those numbers reflect how many threats we think we can detect based of samples we have in our collection servers. Like most vendors we crawl, run honeynets and trade collections as well as pull threats off desktops and take direct user submissions. Each sample we take in we weight against our own conviction framework and if we think it's in fact malicious then it goes into the count you mentioned.

    I am hoping to publish some of the data we've been seeing but need to get the time to do it. To give you actual conviction numbers, our average user over a 30 day span see's 3 convictions (from our software). That's in keeping with what I've seen elsewhere, perhaps even a bit on the slow side.

    Al Huger

    Immunet Corp
     
  10. alhuger

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    It might well be the encryption if it's deployed through a file system kernel driver. As for cutting off your network access, that's likely the result of another driver crashing which is in conflict with us. We do not play on the network stack so if it's dying then it's due to something else cratering due to a possible conflict.

    If you contact me at alfred@immunet.com I would be happy to trouble shoot it directly with you.

    al
     
  11. alhuger

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    The beta version will scan anything in memory currently and anything slated to run at system start time.
     
  12. alhuger

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    Right now we have users running .10, .12, 14, 15 and .16. We have not forced an update across the board yet because we're focused on a few other issues right now. Each successive build is comprised of bug fixes. The product can certainly auto-update, we just have not triggered it yet. We are likely going to try to move the whole userbase to 1.0.17 this week or early next week.

    Al

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  13. guest

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    How can you say that?, when Panda Cloud AV dont have access to internet loss a 90% of efectivity, so i think that Prevx is a better replacement. Of course the vendors can say whatever
     
  14. pbust

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    It is not true that Panda Cloud AV looses 90% of effectiveness when offline.

    Also you might want to ask what effectiveness other online solutions lose while offline and what kind of protections they have for offline operation.
     
  15. simisg

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    no panda cloud not looses all detection when is offline it has also offline database
    with signatures
     
  16. TonyW

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    I think Panda Cloud AV utilises an offline database when internet connectivity is lost. Prevx doesn't currently, but they're working to introduce some form of an offline database for v4 for those situations.
     
  17. guest

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    Sorry for say that misunderstanding some information.
    And more or less what is the % of effectiveness that Panda cloud lose?
     
  18. rainbow1112

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    Cloud protection is inactive... how do i enable it back?
     
  19. alhuger

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    Rainbow,

    If you mail me at alfred@immunet.com I will walk you through it.

    al

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  20. Kees1958

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    Al,

    Thanks for anwering all those questions.

    I have a question about the active protection mode.

    When it is on, it stops an install until it checked the cloud blacklist.

    I have a question:
    - most FireWalls disconnect from the internet during install to switch off existing FW and gain control of the wlan/lan.

    - could this cause a dead-loop-wait situation: Immunet waits for answer from teh internet, install of FW which re-establish the connection is halted,

    Regards Kees
     
  21. alhuger

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    Kees,

    Good question, I am not sure is the short answer. We have three methods of contacting the cloud. In the event we see a failure on one we flip to the other. All have a timeout value. In theory we should reconnect in the scenario you describe. I will test it when I get back to the lab.

    al
     
  22. Kees1958

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    Thx,

    Al today my 1.0.16 told me to update to 1.0.17. It de-installed 0.16 but did not install 0.17

    I had tried 0.17, but that version felt more beta than 0.16. So I will wait until .18 arrives

    Regards Kees
     
  23. CookieCrumbler

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    Currently using Immunet Protect...beautiful piece of software :), honestly more people should switch to this so they find more malware in the cloud...16,000 people doesn't sound like alot, seeing as its new. Blocked tons of malware from running in my tests, i give this an B-. I just hope they continue to improve this, because it can only get better.

    Yep....it found a very large percentage of everything I threw at it. Very, very promising product :)
     
  24. simisg

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    sorry but after some time i have test it again and it let my system infected most of the time...... very small detection in zero threats from malwarebytes forum and malware domain pages
    after that my opinion is to let the software to get mature
    now it is not ok to leave this alone to protect windows
     
  25. clocks

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    Build v 1.0.18 is out. Mine did not auto-update, so I downloaded from their site.
     
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