Comodo anti-virus

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by wdh2313, Jul 27, 2009.

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  1. firzen771

    firzen771 Registered Member

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    have u been oblivious to the stream of countless FP's that Comodo AV has? ive yet to see an AV have that many FP's in my own use, and tbh, when it comes to Comodo's AV, i havent really seen any major tech accomplishments and innovations to make the AV get on top of the pack. all i see is Comodo adding signature after signature and not making too much use of generic sigs, making it look like they detect a high volume of malware just because they have a large number of signatures, which isnt true. personally i find it to almost be like false advertising.
     
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    putting all ur hopes to save Comodo's AV in one NEW, unproven "tech" is far from saying the AV will become all mighty and trample the people who have been doing it for years and perfecting their technology and have actually had innovations in the field.
     
  3. Eice

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    Simple: I collect malware as a hobby, and do my own tests. One of the many that Comodo fails on today: ~Virus Total link removed per Policy.~

    On good days, Comodo detects 40-50% of the samples I can find. That's about it.

    Besides, how do we know Comodo's AV sucks? That its proponents have to resort to questions like "how do you know it sucks?" to confuse the average user, instead of showing us any proof how supposedly world-class your AV is. Now it looks like you have fairy tales about some AI system as well, and how it gets touchy when people don't call her by her name. Nice.
     
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  4. firzen771

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    any info on this AI system btw? like some sort of document talking about this new AI, how it works and what it does exactly? u know it wuld be kinda nice to see some info on it other than having a girls name flooding the comodo signature site.
     
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    ill be waiting and we will see, cuz Comodo continuously makes big claims, ill wait patiently now though to see how it turns out...
     
  6. andyman35

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    The only true measure of how good an AV is,that really means anything,is how it performs at blocking the real world malware that's actually infecting the systems of the average user doing average user things on their computer.

    We know for a fact that Avira does this extremely well,the evidence is very easy to find,unfortunately when it comes to Comodo AV it's nothing like so simple.I feel that Comodo made a big error of judgement by not submitting to testing by the likes of AV Comparitives,because although you can argue about how realistic those tests may or may not be,at least they offer some insight into the relative merits of their product.The absence of this has left a vacuum that's been filled by the haters and fanboys.
     
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    Unfortunately, this is very true. I had tried Comodo AV and the FP's kept me away. If they follow their FW, their AV might be the best.

    Ice
     
  8. andyman35

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    Yes I agree, I should have said that equally important to the average user is that their AV doesn't flag up commonly used programs as malware to an unnacceptable degree.While FPs are a source of irritation to an expert user,to those with standard skills they're likely to lead to programs stopping working or,in a worst case scenario,an unusable system.
     
  9. smage

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    I know but I just wanted to prevent the thread from becoming the battlefield where the pro and anti Comodo will engage with each other.

    I think that Comodo does indeed provide free anti-spam.
    http://www.comodoantispam.com/
     
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    Thanks... Back to CIS 2009 again..
     
  11. firzen771

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    CIS 2009? i really hope they dont move to the yearly version scheme and stay with version numbers.
     
  12. eXPerience

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    No, AFAIK they will stay with the version numbers.

    eXPerience
     
  13. CogitoTesting

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    In fairness Comodo was not the only one failing your test. McAfee for example, a well established security company, failed your test as well. The fact that I'm trying to establish here is the following: Was your test dynamic?

    Thanks.
     
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  14. tipstir

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    I ran the two updates for CIS 3.10x AV. Then scan the system. It found 13 threats. I had taken a closer look at each one it had reported. So it can find malware okay..

    Viruses - still tells me msconfig.exe is a virus so hopefully they can fix that..
    There was some other windows *.dll the one use when you connect your digital camera. Can't remove that one. I just told AV to ignore the rest. That's what is missing from some of these other AV program you can't tell it o ignore the file as you know it's not a threat. CIS 3.10 need password protection.

    I've change the AV from Stateful to On Access.

    I had mentioned CIS 2009, some sites have it like this. I'll just call it CIS 3.10x not to confuse anyone.
     
  15. smage

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    Hi, you should submit the Fps in their forum if you want to help them.
    http://forums.comodo.com/false_posi...is_a_malware_that_cis_hasnot_detected-b154.0/

    This is why I'm using Avast, it is an install and forget solution.
     
  16. Wildest

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    ROFL, I remain highly amused.

    All this talk about "Daisy AI"... isn't AI supposed to stand for Artificial Intelligence?
    Which product has Comodo ever released that had anything even vaguely resembling intelligence? :D
    The pop-up happy CIS was only tamed by lowering its security capabilities.

    Comodo would like us to believe that developing a competent AV and its associated support system is as simple as developing their HIPS, which is essentially a simple white-listing, rule-based software.

    Haha, if CIS' AV is a serious contender this same time next year I will eat my turban!
     
  17. Wildest

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    Hello my friend.
    Let me try to provide a response to your nonsensical query.

    There are many, many examples of HIPS developed by one-man-show operations.

    Can you tell me of a single one-man-show AV?
    :rolleyes:
     
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    I take you're not using it are you...
     
  20. andyman35

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    The problem for Comodo (and many others) in that respect is that Avira is improving too.
     
  21. tipstir

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    MSE and Avira tight race.. Though I just ran Avira well I didn't scan yet but it found something in the root of C where MSE didn't spot. So it's 50/50 Comodo AV never spotting these threats though.
     
  22. Wildest

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    ssj100 and I are old friends, don't let the choice of words in my reply have too much influence...

    I currently use CIS sans AV on my personal box.
    Unfortunately I have become used to its idiosyncracies, and since it works very well, I have been loathe to change it.
    I downloaded all versions of OA to give it a test run in a VM, but then I read here about VMs not being a suitable platform for deriving objective, conclusive results, so I am sort of limping along with CIS for now.

    But I digress...

    I will most definitely test out CIS' AV component, but when it is more, how you say, mature.
     
  23. smage

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    and the one's it misses, are they generally widespread or really obscure examples that most people will never come across even if they go looking for them?

    The good Inspector made a great post a year or so ago stating pure numbers can be misleading if they, for example, are more common on Chinese sites. I'm never going to come across these for example so purely numbers wise you can't score any AV.
     
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