Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 (Morro MSE Free Anti-Virus)

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  1. against

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    Anyone researched this link? Something tells me it's not legit.
     
  2. elapsed

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    It's not an official link no, but it isn't really useful either.
     
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    That web page does look somewhat suspicious. I got mine from Softpedia:

    MSE 1.0.1407.00
     
  4. elapsed

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    For those that are interested, after being impressed with detection results of MSE over ESET, I've been conducting my own tests, although admittedly extremely minor in comparison to fully fledged test such as AV-C, I thought I'd just post the results anyway.

    I gathered an average of around 20-30 "fresh" samples from the last 5 days, these samples were separated into "day" folders and would have the entire folder scanned on that day. On average MSE would only miss 1 or 2 files from the entire folder.

    Today I did the usual again, but I also did a scan of all the folders to see if Microsoft are actually adding detection for those few day old files, total detection today was 111/113 files.


    On an unrelated note, someone mentioned something about detection exploits and scripts/etc. I've seen some detection titled "js" recently, and also today stumbled across a heuristic PDF detection which is nice to see.

    pdfjsc.jpg


    Anyone else somewhat crossing their fingers for a new beta come updates day this week?
     
  5. raven211

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    I'm not sure they're following that schedule, but we can always hope, and that it's not just a bug-fix release, even if it's much needed I guess. :D What makes me curious is, did it ever contact the Dynamic Definitions, or even very often considering the files were very new. I thought it contacted that db always, and was a little surprised it did NOT detect the few missed samples. Also curious if you tested NOD32 on this one, or is it "too late" by now?
     
  6. elapsed

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    Yeah I let MSE remove all the samples from the scan. But in response to your question, I don't do comparative tests, because this is a free time thing, I'm not interested nor do I have to deal with all the criticism and such.

    The main bug fix I'm hoping for is the XP updating one :x I'd like it to just work on install :D
     
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    same here. It works flawlessly on my Vista Home pc but my xp pro pc the auto update does not work. I needed to use a 3rd party pgm that I found in this thread. I have it checking every 2 hours and it works. I had tried testing this also with a small sample of stuff. It worked rather nicely.

    Ice
     
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    Are you referring to the scheduler program someone posted? The problem I had with that (when I was scheduling manually) is that the dos window pops up. Does that program have a way to schedule it but keep the window hidden?.
     
  9. HAN

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    You shouldn't need a separate program. The Task Scheduler in XP works fine for me.

    The answer to the DOS box is to create a shortcut that has this in the target field
    "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Security Essentials\MpCmdRun.exe" -SignatureUpdate
    Then, in the shortcut's properties, have it set to run as minimized. Then build your scheduled task pointing to the shortcut. That should do it.

    I built my shortcut at the root folder of the C drive. I called it MSE Update.
     
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  10. raven211

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    I meant no criticism - I only had curiousity. ;) And just to note, even if MSE would do best on this test, it wouldn't mean the world, and it would only be interesting to see. :)

    I'm not sure... was there a response to this line of mine; "What makes me curious is, did it ever contact the Dynamic Definitions, or even very often considering the files were very new. I thought it contacted that db always, and was a little surprised it did NOT detect the few missed samples."? :doubt:


    Cheers!
     
  11. elapsed

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    I couldn't tell you I'm afraid, but I am using the advanced SN membership for files on PC's I install it on.
     
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    When I tried to point the XP task scheduler to a shortcut, it auto redirected to the file the shortcut was pointing at. :/
     
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    Sorry... I forgot to mention that the path in the Run box needs to be in quotes (as in my photo.) Hopefully that's the last piece of the puzzle you'll need. :)
     

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    The same thing happened to me. That is why I'm using the 3rd party scheduler. It also has the option to hide the update. It really works great. However, once MS fixes the XP update issue, I will uninstall it and let MS handle the update frequency.

    Ice
     
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    I'll give it a go also.

    thanks,
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    Yes, if you point the XP task scheduler to the shortcut that is exactly what happens. What you have to do is to manually type the location of the shortcut into the task scheduler (instead of pointing to it) then the task will run minimised using the shortcut.
     
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    it is easier by just set the "SignatureUpdateInterval"=dword:00000001 to any hours between 1 ~ 24
     
  18. elapsed

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    That worked, thank you. :)
     
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    Maybe that works for some but it didn't work for me on XP. Mine was/is set at every 8 hours and it never ran. The PC has been on longer than that several times too.

    I may disable my scheduled task and try it again to verify it...
     
  20. apm

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    my set to every 3 hours and never miss a update, you need to set it smaller, it will count from the last update time.
     
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    I tried setting SignatureUpdateInterval to check every hour on my XP Pro system and it worked; MSE is now updating itself without the use of a separate scheduled task. (I had to use Regedit to change the permission on the key to full though before I was able to edit the value.)

    Thanks for the tip. :thumb:
     
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    I went with a setting of every 2 hours and it seems to be updating. There must be something between the 8 hour setting and my usage habits that conflicted?? So I'll be deleting my update scheduled task. Thanks for the idea!
     
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    Confirmed! This works great! Thanks for the find. I was able to uninstall the 3rd party scheduler.

    Ice
     
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    Damn now I need to try it out. :D
     
  25. pegr

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    The interesting thing is that, although I've edited the registry to change the update frequency to every hour, MSE appears to be checking and updating every 8 hours. Since making the change yesterday evening, it has updated itself at 22:51 yesterday, and 06:51 and 14:51 today (UK time).

    Still, at least it is now updating automatically three times a day at 8 hour intervals without needing a separate scheduled task, which is an improvement.
     
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