Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 (Morro MSE Free Anti-Virus)

Ok, and thank you. So you are saying that the individual who is in the lower income bracket, "Wording this carefully." is basically the guinea pig to help Microsoft make their corporate product better. Mankind at its best, Bill.

 

Here's one article: http://blogs.technet.com/forefront/...-essentials-formerly-morro-and-forefront.aspx

and the quote: " It is important to note that MSE will have a very positive impact on Forefront, because it allows Microsoft to capture even more threat intelligence from customers as more people use the free anti-malware solution. We'll be able to use that information to help extend our security research and in the development of signatures and protection capabilities in our Forefront products, which are being deployed by increasing numbers of enterprises today, with thousands of Microsoft security partners certified to sell and deploy Forefront solutions. And, of course, there's an exciting road ahead for Forefront as we release a brand new set of products for this family in our next fiscal year under the codename "Stirling"."

 

then going back to what moonblood stated, the one thing in that statement that stands out to me, is the word, family, as in paid home consumer.

Enough busting my chops on it, it is what it is and so be it. Risl, thank you for your help my friend. Tell Chris hi please, in the forums.

 

You're welcome. Just wanted to point out that they aren't doing charity. Business is a business.

.. though I have no idea what Chris has to do with this, but I can tell him hi.

 

He doesnt, but I figured since you use the Doctor you frequent the Dr.Web forums. Anyway, you helped me understand more and that is all that counts. Microsoft may be doing the right thing, who knows, the world is starting to tilt, to which side is the question.

 

Yep. MS had failed with onecare in the consumer markrt anyway. The consumer market is made up of people with no Am, people with free AM, people with cracked AMs and a minority who pay for an AM. Given this, what has MS to lose by giving away a top notch AM, that will serve as a massive detection net for capturing new malware for the only clients who generally pay for AMs - business. With hundreds of millions using MSE, MS will have a fantastic detection net to capture new nasties and therefore make its business / copropate AM the best.

I also agree that once any AM becomes widespread, the criminals will look to find chinks in it armour.

Puss

 

I would assume the best "customers" for malware authors are the ones who are actually using an AV. If you can infiltrate and hide malware into a system that is already protected, the user doesn't react or if does, it is less likely. The "already protected" user isn't actively searching for possible malware and trying different products because he/she already has protection. Non-protected users will get assisted by others to install antiviruses, try to install ones themselves and are basically more likely to "do something about it" than the already protected user.

This leads us to the percentages. If we would assume MSE as a free solution gets a share of 20-30% of total antivirus users, there are atleast 30% of these potential "best customers" for malware authors. If you can bypass that popular solution, you have a very good basis for your virus and many of them wouldn't notice anything. The best scenario would be to bypass every solution, but since it's probably very difficult, the best bet is to target the very popular ones.

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The line of reasoning that this will cause other security vendors to go out of business and thus it is a bad thing is flawed.

I couldn't care less if Norton/McAfee AV products fail due to this. If there is a need becuase MSE lacks something, someone new will come up with a better product. This is a win-win for everyone except the greedy vendors who have had a captive market for so long.

I only wish Microsoft was allowed to make this part of Windows, but EU, the DOJ and other companies will only be too happy to sue MS because its a good way to extract money.

 

Well, you can say that for every product out there. So MSE is not to be blamed.

 

Another big advantag -

- any flaws in this will be very public, just like any flaws in IE are. MS is very good at security updates

- MS has millions to burn on this. They can certainly afford and it gives them goodwill which they sorely need. MSE+Win 7 is a fantastic combo.

 

Yeah, I would like to know also. The only time I see I can change is the scheduled scan. I don't think I have seen the program auto update yet, but I have been updating manually, so maybe that is negating the regular schedule.

 

Not to spoil the free party but isn't IE related somewhat? Can all the AV experts come together and create a FF av version? That will never happen I guess. Note that the malware team behind Microsoft is not just plain joe.

 

I really think this will help the other AV/AM companies to kick it in the rear and make a better product, paid or free. More choices means more innovation. I like the M$ is doing this.

Ice

 

Does MSE have email scanning?

 

Depends which OS your using. In XP, look in the control panel and there should be an icon called Automatic Updates. Click on this and you will see the time option.

In Vista, goto the security center and in the left pane click Windows Update and then in the left pane select change settings. You will see the time there as well.

Ice

 

Thanks.

 

it doesn't scan the emails but it scans attachments

robin

 

No it will offered totally free- you will not have to pay for it.

robin

 

Thanks for the news

Yes, Andreas did a sort of 'minitest'. To my surprise, MSE is performing surprisingly strong:

However:

So, we'll see how things goes in the coming weeks when this AV is being put under an in-depth testing process

 

AV-C will have MSE results in august, I'm very interested in the results they bring us.

 

Oh, so the updates are tied to Windows/Microsoft Updates. I don't have it set to Automatic. I have it set to ask before download and install. I guess I'll have to change that if I'm going to have definition updates installed automatically. Thanks for the information IceCube1010.

 

I think it will update even in that mode 'ask me before..' from what I'm reading. I see that MSE here on Win7 RC is updating 2-3 times per/day so far.

You guys also might find some answers here:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/mse

 

I know some of you have already provided some info about it, when it comes to performance, but, at the moment, what do you think of it? Is it stable enough, even for a beta version?

There's something within me saying: "Install this bitch!"

Just kidding... A friend asked to format his XP system and install Windows Vista. I'm wondering if it would work fine, without giving any problems? Because if it is stable, then I'd install it. All other free versions, nag screens annoying him, not to mention that avast! made his system slow, and with Avira, he had to install without web and e-mail guard, otherwise he couldn't connect to the Internet (USB device) (That's something family members also have experienced with Avira.).

Or would it be suicide, as it is now? I'm not talking about detection.


Thank you

 

I say go for it! I haven't been able to test it myself, but I'm struggling to find any downsides that aren't retarded "microsoft lol" excuses form the blogs.

 

I have it on Vista x64 here and no issues at all so far..... Seems pretty nice. I ordinarily don't mess with beta software, but this seems pretty stable to me.