Microsoft Security Essentials 1.0 (Morro MSE Free Anti-Virus)

Now I'm the one who's gonna state something, cause those guys have been stating A LOT of things; YOU-GUYS-ARE-SCARED!

 

I imagine we will hear lots of negative things about MSE from several security vendors. My prediction is that many of those spreading these lies will soon be saying "would you like fries with that"

Puss

 

just be careful on xp
it has a bug in it if you have windows live programs installed
when you reboot it looses the icon in taskbar and you get a popup folder box that has c:/Program Files/Microsoft/Search Enhancement Pack
and inside this folder is the Choice Guard which seems to be causing all the problems.

You cannot uninstall the choice guard because it is not in add/remove programs
the only way to do it is this way:

msiexe /x {product id} in the run command

this will uninstall it

to find your product id you do:
type in run- regedit
navigate to HKEY_Local_Machine
Software
Microsoft
Search Enhancement Pack
Choice Guard
There you will see the product id
stick the product id into the command i gave you making sure you have the { } brackets
then click OK
it will uninstall your version of Choice Guard

Once you do this the popup box goes away and the MSE icon comes back.

I sent off (and everyone on the beta forum who has xp with windows live programs installed is seeing the same thing and they sent off a bug report too) a bug report to Microsoft and they are aware of this problem. Hopefully they will issue a KB to fix this asap.

robin

 

Hi


Now I very much doubt that any of you Wilders guys will need this next link - Re : MSE
How-To Geek : http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/1956/microsoft-security-essentials/

However!
For those with less experience.
Or perhaps for those who are just curious and want to know more about MSE
I Thought I'd Post It Anyway!

Plenty Of MSE Pics!

Me Thinks So Too!

I Reckon They're Scared Stiff

 

I'm feeling tempted come Windows 7 to just go all out Microsoft AV+Firewall, kinda want to test MSE though :/

 

stupid thing is at least mse covers all the types of malware. you have to pay for symantec classic av and it lacks spyware detection...

 

I guess MSE is free for now. Once it comes out of beta, one has to pay for it.

Thanks,
Balaji.

 

Where did you get that idea? Morro is and will be free.

 

Don't remember where I have seen it, but it was mentioned somewhere. I will try to find and post the link.

Thanks,
Balaji.

 

I guess he simply missed some very important information, Defcon.

 

MSE will be completely free.

 

Symantec speaks about Morro like "incomplete" malware defender.
Speaking about it, is a paid software called Norton AV Classic a complete protection? And it's not even free.

I've tryed MSE and it looks promising. I've always looked for a free AV that has options to auto-delete what it finds and so on.

 

Avast! and PC Tools AV are probably only two other free with automatic operation that have acted as they should.

On another note, couldn't agree more about "Classic"... Partly because MSE includes Windows Defender which is so heavily improved it's ridiculous thanks to being a complete AM solution. Oh wait, I already said what they thought it wasn't. Now, also partly because the Dynamic definitions seem to be completely superior in comparison to their SONAR; in Matt Rizos review with heavy, new malware, it would indeed act. For me, with a new bot/worm which is EXACTLY what it's meant to protect against, it wouldn't do a single thing. I promised myself there I wouldn't swear, even if I really want to in that case, FYI... The approach the Dynamic defs. uses simply seems phenomenal in comparison.

Talked about Dynamic defs... does it work like this that if malicious behavior is detected, it's sent to Microsoft for *direct* analyzis and removal if positive? It actually seemed like it during Matt Rizos "review", which would be completely amazing.

 

I don't know about Pctools but Avast has these options only on Pro version (enchanted user interface)

 

Nope, Silent Mode, answer "No". In PC Tools it's kinda limited, but there you can atleast specify for different kinds, and not just a "No" to everything it finds on a certain module.

For all members' information I've updated my last post if anyone missed it.

 

Of course, the other vendors are saying that it offers basic protection. They wouldn't be saying: "Seems a very great anti-malware tool, stick with it. Ditch ours. Don't buy them anymore."

It seems promising.

I guess that the other vendors will have to, either improve their detections at an insane step, or provide them free, at least for home users. When I mean free, free all the way.

They will also need to improve on stability and usability. I truly hope that MSE finds a good term. It will only benefit Windows users, specially those that will buy new computers and will be getting Windows 7 with a default and great, so it seems, ant-malware.

I just hope this won't become some other fight between these other vendors, European Commission and Microsoft, with all this antitrust nonsense.

 

Well said, m00n.

 

If I were Microsoft, I would not even release this in Europe. Why give the EU something else to complain about.

 

How did you change your automatic update time? I don't see any settings for changing when updates start.

 

Brilliant post, completely agree.

 

That's a good thing? Security companies going bust means less innovation and choice, not good .

 

Or, they will start improving their products and shout out: "A paid product makes all the difference! Stick with us!".

Its great to see that there are and will be free alternatives that will stand ground. This will make those behind paid products wake up.

 

MB, I am going have to agree. I mean on the surface this appears great for Microsoft, but,,, how much have they spent to get to this point and,,,,, how much are they going to spend to keep it up and at the front. Because it doesn't make any profit, period. It is a total money loser. Yes it sounds very nice and professional of Microsoft but, BS, there is always a hidden agenda and it aint the kind-hearted story all of this is portraying. There are plenty of free AVs that folks in third world countries can download. Some very good. I think this is to draw paying consumers back over to Microsoft. The end result, well, I aint figured that one out.

But this product is an expenditure, with no logical way to recoup the costs. Blue, I would love to hear your take on this.

 

Thats it exactly.

 

.. I think the agenda was that they are using the information gathered from MSE to improve their corporate/enterprise solutions like ForeFront security. Trying to get more market share from Symantec and McAfee or what ever the biggest players are in offering solutions for bigger companies.

The minus part always in free solutions / mainstream solutions is that they will always be the main target for malware authors to bypass. This probably doesn't need any further explanations why.