What is AppGuard

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by trjam, Jan 26, 2009.

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  1. danny9

    danny9 Departed Friend

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    Let me clarify.
    I said I reinstalled AppGuard to see if that would make a difference.
    Of course you can't judge usage in a few hours.
    I was showing the progression of memory use in a short period of time.
    Long term I average 30k with the current version, which in my mind, seems quite high.
    All I wanted to know is if this is average or not for AppGuard?
     
  2. m00nbl00d

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    @ Eirik

    Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate it.
     
  3. Eirik

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    Hi Dan,

    Thanks for clarifying. I believe you mean 30M. And yes, 30M is normal. Unfortunately, the licensing code accounts for about a third of that, or a 50% increase from what is was without it. We will be putting AppGuard on a resource diet later this year, starting with its 'download' size, which affects adoption significantly according to Cnet. We'll also look at memory but I should be candid that memory reduction is not one of our top priorities right now. After we knock off some other tasks, it will eventually make its way to the top echelon of our priorities.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  4. danny9

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    Thanks Eirik,

    You have answered my questions.
    Thanks for the quick responses. :)

    Dan
     
  5. Blackcat

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    Unless you have an ancient computer, this memory usage is peanuts and IMHO is therefore not an important problem.

    The important factor is how AppGuard affects performance in regards to CPU time, I/O reads/writes etc and in this regard, IME, AppGuard is as light as a feather.
     
  6. danny9

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    Of course you are right Blackcat.
    AppGuard does not affect performance in the least and the memory usuage is not an important issue.
    That's why I run it.

    I was more curious as to why it uses the memory it does.
    Compared to all the programs I do run now and have run in the past, none of them comes close to the the memory usage of AppGuard.

    As far as AppGuard itself, it is one terrific program and does what it says.
    I appreciate the efforts by Eirik and the people responsible for AppGuard! :D
     
  7. Thankful

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    Downloaded AppGuard 1.2.7.0 and see this screen. Only running NOD32, KeyScrambler and Windows Firewall. Windows XP, SP3. Doesn't seem right.
     

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    Verify that Terminal services are running. :D
     
  9. Thankful

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    Thanks.
    I'll give it another shot.
     
  10. Thankful

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    After turning on Terminal Services, I receive message, "Trial period has expired."
    Is there a way I can trial this program?
    Thanks.
     
  11. Eirik

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    Hi Thankful,

    Thanks for trying AppGuard. Let's see if I can help you without having to open a trouble ticket. I'm sorry things didn't work immediately and perfectly for you.

    There are two causes to the missing tabs. Terminal Services is one and the other is the AppGuardAgent.exe service failed to start, which tends to happen when one or more other security products on the same PC conflict.

    If I infer correctly, your Terminal Services service was indeed off, and you did restart it? It appears that the license enforcement stuff was confused, probably because some things occured out of their typical sequence. My recommendation: ensure that Terminal Services is set to start automatically, if you didn't already. Next, verify that the AppGuardAgent.exe service is started. Whether it is or isn't started, restart your PC.

    Feel free to send an email appguard@blueridgenetworks.com for more rapid support.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  12. Thankful

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    Stll not working. I sent an email to the above address with a link to my post.
    Thanks.
     
  13. Antarctica

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    I have a question regarding AppGuard and DefenseWall. Right now I am using DW alone. No AV and no AS in real time, only scanning once a month with Avira free.

    Would I benefit anything by installing AppGuard or would those two applications overlap each other?

    Thanks
     
  14. Eirik

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    Too much overlap. Assuming you already have and are comfortable with DW, I wouldn't add AppGuard. If for some reason you were to become unhappy with DW, and I'm not suggesting you would, AppGuard would be an alternative to consider.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  15. Antarctica

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    Thanks Eirik, Your honest reponse is very much appreciated.:)
     
  16. HAN

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    Still curious if AppGuard will run properly under a Limited User account in XP?
     
  17. Eirik

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    After installation, AppGuard will run fine when the user is logged in with a LUA.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
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    I just ran SuperAntiSpyware Updater and received message 'Prevented Process
    <ssupdate.exe> from launching ..' However, the process did run and the program updated definitons. I'm pretty sure this issue is in a state of flux regarding the best way to handle it. However, I've received other messages 'Prevented Process <processname.exe> from writing to.....' How do I know whether these processes were actually blocked?

    Thanks.
     
  20. SIR****TMG

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    new one out yet?
     
  21. Eirik

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    We haven't yet scheduled the release of version 1.3, which is primarily focused on simplifying the user experience as opposed to adding more protections, though there will be some additions too but its too soon to say what will be added in 1.3.

    I do have something for the adventureous to try. Its a future component for AppGuard and EdgeGuard, loosely called MBRguard.

    As the name implies, it prevents unauthorized changes to the MBR. Its available for download and installation now as a standalone widget. You can install it in addition to any AppGuard, EdgeGuard, or to a PC without AppGuard or EdgeGuard. Its truly stand alone. However, it has no GUI whatsoever. Its just a driver in its present form.

    Why are we making this available as a standalone prior to integrating it? Its possible that despite best efforts that it might interfere with other security products or legitimate PC back-up software. We hope our design successfully avoids those conflicts. But, ultimately one must conduct some field testing in highly diverse environments. We're hoping Wilders folk will expose it to diverse environments as well as to known RAW I/O malware attacks such as KillDisk.

    If you're interested, please go to the link below:

    MBR Guard Download Page No registration is required.

    BTW, if/when you uninstall the software via the Control Panel, you'll find it named BootGuard. I refer to it as MBRguard because I fear folk might believe it does more than protect the MBR, such as protect the BIOS (it does not explicitly do so).

    Please post feedback here or send emails to appguard@blueridgenetworks.com.

    MBRguard supports Win7 now. Internal AppGuard builds do as well, however, I do not yet have a date for its pre-release or general availability.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  22. HAN

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    Will AppGuard 1.3 include a way to keep users from disabling the protection, like a password or such? I haven't tried 1.2 yet but didn't see that feature. That is one thing that I feel is necessary in a family environment...
     
  23. Blackcat

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    Eirik are we looking at a release near to the "October" one of Windows 7?
     
  24. Eirik

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    Better than 50-50 chance of password protected AppGuard policy in version 1.3 release.
     
  25. Eirik

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    We will definitely release AppGuard for Win7 prior to the GA of Win7, which is Oct. 22 I believe. I just can't tell you all how much sooner. I'll renew my efforts to get you all a better answer.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
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